New MS391 not oiling chain!

[eggsarascal]

Update:

 

After a busy day at work and getting home late, bursting to try it out, I ventured out into the back with the saw, filled with Oregon oil and a splash of diesel to clear out the goopy Makita crap.

 

Took a panel of cardboard out and laid it down, revved the saw up and started oil painting like Picasso

 

After laying a dozen or so good oil stripes I whipped it through a bit of old wood I had lying around (little branches, nothing too hard ) and it cut with venom.

 

Then killed the engine and inspected it.

 

Chain looking dark and shiny, rather than brown, blue, burnt and dry? check

 

Chain, bar, bar nuts and side case all cool to the touch?

check

 

Happy Turtlewoods? :thumbup: checkamungous !!

 

You, Sir, have the patience of a saint:thumbup:

 

I would have chucked it out of the motor days ago:biggrin:

[Joe Newton]

You, Sir, have the patience of a saint:thumbup:

 

 

 

I would have chucked it out of the motor days ago:biggrin:

 

 

I know. Despite myself I'm genuinely pleased for the bloke.

 

Damn.

[TurtleWoods72]

You, Sir, have the patience of a saint:thumbup:

 

I would have chucked it out of the motor days ago:biggrin:

 

Haha, thanks eggs mate.

 

 

I think this experience has been more fun than frustrating really.

 

I'm a pretty patient chap, and being an engineer of sorts I'm always interested to learn how things work.

 

I'm glad I had a valid reason to investigate this problem, find a solution and get to tear down my saw (very carefully) in the process.

 

I actually said to my girlfriend tonight "I've spent more time dismantling, cleaning, re-assembling and farting about with this saw than using it!"

 

Her reply was "it's been nothing but trouble from day one"

 

I'm just hoping she doesn't clock that there's no longer a reason for it to be in the dining table, since the 'investigation is closed' lol.

[Eddy_t]

Update:

 

After a busy day at work and getting home late, bursting to try it out, I ventured out into the back with the saw, filled with Oregon oil and a splash of diesel to clear out the goopy Makita crap.

 

Took a panel of cardboard out and laid it down, revved the saw up and started oil painting like Picasso

 

After laying a dozen or so good oil stripes I whipped it through a bit of old wood I had lying around (little branches, nothing too hard ) and it cut with venom.

 

Then killed the engine and inspected it.

 

Chain looking dark and shiny, rather than brown, blue, burnt and dry? check

 

Chain, bar, bar nuts and side case all cool to the touch?

check

 

Happy Turtlewoods? :thumbup: checkamungous !!

 

 

After all that, I bet you feel a right twonk! Makita oil is tailored for the bar design, which uses the same patterns as husky, utilising a large feed hole in the bar. The D009 on large huskies actually stands for 'Dolmar pattern 009', hence the thicker oil, whereas Stihl uses a smaller feed hole and a shaped drive link to distribute a lighter oil. The channels would have just thrown out the oil as the cohesive properties of the thicker oil wouldn't allow it to spread as far.

The comparison you made earlier with honey vs washing up liquid on a cheese grater was fairly accurate, where the solid drive link of husky, dolmar or Oregon would be a more solid object pushing those fluids about.

That, and the oil may have been old and stale, causing it to be gloopy

[TurtleWoods72]

I know. Despite myself I'm genuinely pleased for the bloke.

 

Damn.

 

Sorry Joe, I missed this earlier as I was replying when you posted. Thanks for your help. I don't mind the piss taking. In fact it was an inspiration to rise above and conquer lol

 

I'll still meet you for a coffee when I'm over rugby way. That's if you can be seen in public with a Stihl user?.?

 

After all that, I bet you feel a right twonk! Makita oil is tailored for the bar design, which uses the same patterns as husky, utilising a large feed hole in the bar. The D009 on large huskies actually stands for 'Dolmar pattern 009', hence the thicker oil, whereas Stihl uses a smaller feed hole and a shaped drive link to distribute a lighter oil. The channels would have just thrown out the oil as the cohesive properties of the thicker oil wouldn't allow it to spread as far.

The comparison you made earlier with honey vs washing up liquid on a cheese grater was fairly accurate, where the solid drive link of husky, dolmar or Oregon would be a more solid object pushing those fluids about.

That, and the oil may have been old and stale, causing it to be gloopy

 

I wouldn't say I feel a right twonk per se, as hindsight is a wonderful thing

 

The gnawing irony is that if I hadn't been such a tight arse and tried to use up that annoying half bottle of old Makita bar oil, and walked to the other end of the garage where the Oregon stuff was sitting unopened I'd have had a different journey.

 

Do I facepalm slightly, yes.

 

Do I regret the way it turned out?

 

 

Hell no!! I had a good lesson in the mechanics and principles of chainsaw design, lubrication etc. I've seen the clutch, the oiler, the chainbrake mechanism..it was all thoroughly enjoyable and fascinating.

 

I'm considering tearing down all my other saws just for fun!

 

I thank you all for all your help, and the last post and explaination of the Makita/Husqvarna vs Stihl oiling/bar designs and oil weights was the icing on the cake! Thanks.

 

Oh, and didnt I mention the use of Makita oil in one of my first posts?

 

Thanks, you all rule

Edited September 1, 2015 by TurtleWoods72

[eggsarascal]

Sorry Joe, I missed this earlier as I was replying when you posted. Thanks for your help. I don't mind the piss taking. In fact it was an inspiration to rise above and conquer lol

 

I'll still meet you for a coffee when I'm over rugby way. That's if you can be seen in public with a Stihl user?.?

 

 

 

I wouldn't say I feel a right twonk per se, as hindsight is a wonderful thing

 

The gnawing irony is that if I hadn't been such a tight arse and tried to use up that annoying half bottle of old Makita bar oil, and walked to the other end of the garage where the Oregon stuff was sitting unopened I'd have had a different journey.

 

Do I facepalm slightly, yes.

 

Do I regret the way it turned out?

 

 

Hell no!! I had a good lesson in the mechanics and principles of chainsaw design, lubrication etc. I've seen the clutch, the oiler, the chainbrake mechanism..it was all thoroughly enjoyable and fascinating.

 

I'm considering tearing down all my other saws just for fun!

 

I thank you all for all your help, and the last post and explaination of the Makita/Husqvarna vs Stihl oiling/bar designs and oil weights was the icing on the cake! Thanks.

 

Oh, and didnt I mention the use of Makita oil in one of my first posts?

 

Thanks, you all rule

 

We don't all rule!

 

Some of us are Opinionated!

 

Glad ya got got ya saw sorted.

[spudulike]

Praise the Lord.....I haven't slept for three days:lol:

[TurtleWoods72]

Praise the Lord.....I haven't slept for three days:lol:

 

 

Nor have I!

 

Been up every night stripping that bloody Stihl down!

[spudulike]

Nor have I!

 

Been up every night stripping that bloody Stihl down!

 

Tonight I will sleep like a king:thumbup:

 

Glad it is sorted.......for your sake:thumbup:

[TurtleWoods72]

Tonight I will sleep like a king:thumbup:

 

Glad it is sorted.......for your sake:thumbup:

 

I hope you did, I had a terrible nights sleep.

 

Thanks for your help.