Mainstream media, modern imperialism and the violence caused.

[Wood wasp]

I'm unclear on how sourcing your news from one website really helps you find the "real truth".

 

And a quick skim read of the website you highlighted suggests it's not the most impartial either

[Mick Dempsey]

"sheeple"

 

I'm out.

[matelot]

Perfect! Thank you for demostrating my points exactly about how these people are getting away with it, in a blinding display of completely missing the point.:thumbup:

 

Do the Taliban kill homosexuals or not? If homosexual killing is something the western media have made up to discredit the Taliban why do the taliban not deny it?

 

How about that schoolgirl that was shot by the Taliban for going to school? Was she really shot? Maybe we should have another poll A. She is actually a robot made by the CIA. B. It's all CGI and there is no girl. C. She wasn't actually shot and it was just a paper cut. D. It serves her right, she doesn't need an education to cook and clean.

[tommer9]

I'm unclear on how sourcing your news from one website really helps you find the "real truth".

 

And a quick skim read of the website you highlighted suggests it's not the most impartial either

 

Nothing is impartial 100% i agree, and I did try to write a small disclaimer. The site itself is run by Professor Chussodovsky, from Canada, and seeks to allow independent journalists a place to publish their findings without the overbearing influence of mainstream media and all that that is influenced by. These are journalists who DO go to where the action is, and DONT just report what they are told by the western authorities.

Although I agree to a certain extent with your impartiality comment, I still find that beacause there is an affiliation to intellectualism, and not what people like me see as the problem, they do not have the enforced limitaions on the scope of their reporting. Nothing is perfect, but even with a level of impartiality we can see an alternative, and in my view more transparent, therefore closer to the truth, aspect to world events. It is the wholesale acceptance by the masses that the "daily mail politics" is anything like the truth, when that branch of media is totally in the pockets of western government.

At leaast thats how i, and a growing proportion of enlightened people, see it.

 

Or I could be totally wrong and be living in a dream world lol

 

 

but i think not hehe

[tommer9]

Do the Taliban kill homosexuals or not? If homosexual killing is something the western media have made up to discredit the Taliban why do the taliban not deny it?

 

How about that schoolgirl that was shot by the Taliban for going to school? Was she really shot? Maybe we should have another poll A. She is actually a robot made by the CIA. B. It's all CGI and there is no girl. C. She wasn't actually shot and it was just a paper cut. D. It serves her right, she doesn't need an education to cook and clean.

 

Oh dear.....

[matelot]

Oh dear.....

 

Wow! With arguments like that I'm really coming round to your way of thinking.

 

It's rare for me to feel intellectually outclassed, but this might be one such occasion.

 

Perhaps you could show the "sheeple" that the western media is wrong about ISIS and go to Syria and show that they are the good guys? I can't help thinking your profile cartoon is very apt....

[tommer9]

I can't help thinking your profile cartoon is very apt....

 

Thank you sir, very kind of you to say so.

[tommer9]

It's rare for me to feel intellectually outclassed, but this might be one such occasion.

 

 

Lol i find that hard to believe:thumbup:

[GreenGui]

I am struggling with a lot of things in life at the moment, but one of the biggest is the overpowering and all pervading view of world politics that the majority of the western world seem to have. We are suffering attacks on innnocent people more and more often, the latest and most prominnt of course being the horror in Tunisia. My heart bleeds for those affected.

But what makes me really sad is that the US/UK led coalition that most people seem to believe are the 'goodies' here are, in my opinion, the aggressors in what is an unjust war of terror, dressed up as a war on terror. I cannot see that the world would not be a better place if this horror waged by western forces was stopped. The creation of a common enemy (obviously the trend over the last 25 years is against muslims) is nothing short of a smokescreen to a US led form of imperialism/ colonialism.

sadly the campaign of misinformation that the mainstream media seems fit to palm us off with,(U.S. Propaganda 101: Illegally Invade Countries, Fund the Media, Call it ?Independent? | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization )towing the bush/ blair/ obama/ cameron party line is simply aggravating this, and at the same time encouraging bigotry , fear and hatred. Coupled with the hold that these tyrants and their followers have over mainstream media, it seems to me that we are destined for years more violence and aggression. As the masses are conditioned to a heightened state of xenophobia by ever more regular reports of 'terrorist atrocities' thus garnering support for the hideous foreign policies led by the US, so the xenophobia and mass hysteria follows, setting the scene perfectly for the US led coalition to continue their policy of state sponsored murder, unchecked.

It seems tpo me like a sort of brainwashing. Look at the marches against war in the Blair period! NOw I am sure the marches would be PRO war. And to what end? Violence on an ever increasing scale towards the west. A scale of violence and regularity of incidents the likes of which we have never seen.

I am expecting a tirade of hatred against this post, but the simple fact is that once you have actually bothered to look past the views expounded by the likes of Wikipedia, The daily Mail, CNN, BBC (none of whom have any interest in reporting anything remotely like the truth, and given their sources couldnt even if they DID want to) it is quite clear to see that we are in a very very dangerous state of world politics right now, and that the perceived enemy is not always the aggressor(America?s “Coordinated” Multinational Ramadan Terrorist Attacks. France, Tunisia, Kuwait, China | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization). One only has to scratch the surface to see the evidence of the lies expounded in order that the masses support the murder in the name of antiterrorism that are happening all round the world.

For example we hear all the time about how ISIS have done this that or the other and must be stopped.....but it isnt quite as simple as that:US Admits Paying Al-Qaeda and ISIS Terrorists For Services Rendered In Syria | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

We are told endlessly about NATO forces trying to bring peace, yet there seems more and more compelling evidence that NATO forces have a much darker roll around the world.....

This obviously flies in the face of what is currently perceived as the status quo, socio-politically speaking, i.e it is the opposite of what western politicians want us to believe, and with which they seem to be succeeding. So why would anybody make such outlandish claims?

Quite simply, money and oil. The propagande machine is working overtime to hide from the general populus the truth behind how the world stage is set at the moment and possibly the future for us all...(its very bleak BTW).

Propaganda Reigns In The West | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

To me this is such an important issue. Like i said earlier, I expect to be shot down in flames for having a view that is NOT that fed to us by the warmongers and vehicles of hatred that seek to quell any opposition to the murder machine we have in power in the west, especially given the strong ex=miliatary contingent in this industry. Dont get me wrong, I am not for one moment suggesting that all the worlds problems are caused by the system/ state of play we have at the moment, but unless we ALL get our heads out of the sand, through our blind belief and trust of what we are told to think and the misinformation we are fed on a daily basis, this ultimate danger to world peace wil continue unchecked.

And it is just going to get worse. 40 years of east west relations have now been undone in tyhe last 18 months, as outlined in the last article I have linked.

These are dark times. The nuclear threat is ever growing, and not just in regards to eatern europe....The War on Yemen, America’s Plans to Use Nuclear Weapons against the Middle East | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization.

If you have read this far, and you are neither bored to tears or blood boilingly angry, then fair play. I hope these are not the ramblings of a madman, I dont think I have lost it totally yet lol! However these things (and i could waffle on for ever) are so prominent in my mind, and the outpourings of grief becoming so regular, if ONE person looks a bit deeper and sees past the rubbish we are fed, and it makes the tiniest bit of difference......well it was worth it IMO.

as for source material, the website I draw heavily on, Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization is a site that collates news from people that are INDEPENDANT of the usual mainstream media. These are journalists who dont receive their 'facts' from NATO press releases, or US/UK miliatary briefeings whilst holed up in a designated hotel in the war zone. Hence they are able to report on what they SEE not what they are TOLD to see. They dont work for or get a wage from the site, it is more a place where they can submit articles for publish.

P.s. Sorry for typos.....

p.p.s I am not aiming to cause any offence here either, just expressing my views.

 

First class post.

 

Many people agree with you and the numbers are growing by the day.

 

The problem for many, particularly ex forces people is that to believe even the slightest part of what you, me and many others know to be the truth means that they feel that they have lived a lie. The idea that the ideals they signed up for might not be the truth is so abhorrent, how do you deal with it? You deny it and then use all the preprogrammed terms to define others.

 

The problem now is that even some of these people are seeing through this and seeing the world for how it really is, hence the now expanded definition of "domestic extremist".

[scotspine1]

In 1995 (20 years ago) NATO rescued the Bosnian Muslims from genocide by bombing the Serbian forces who were intent on carrying out the ethnic cleansing of all Bosnian Muslims.

 

According to who, and why exactly...?

 

Always 2 sides to every story...

13 years since NATO aggression against Serbia: Violation of Human rights of Serbs in the Province of Kosovo and Metohija | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

 

tommer, if you're going to try to deflect the discussion away from the point of reference then there really is very little point in continuing with this thread.

 

I was referring to NATO rescuing the Muslims of Bosnia from ethnic cleansing by the Serbs (have you not heard of the Srebrenica Massacre?) you then ignored that major world event and chose to post a subjective article by a former Serbian politician (who used to work for Slobodan Milosevic, the very man who instigated the genocide of Bosnian Muslims) which is bordering on propaganda in it's one sided viewpoint.

 

By doing this it makes it look like you supported the genocide against the Muslims of Bosnia, is that your stance? you would've wanted the eradication of an entire race of people at the hands of the Serbs (under Milosevic).

 

If it wasn't for NATO there would be no Bosnian Muslims.

 

You seem to have a very poor understanding of history. It's always very suspect when people display strong opinions on the state of the world when they have no grasp of history, they choose instead to copy and paste 2nd hand articles from a single website in an attempt to further their confused narrative.

 

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Edited July 1, 2015 by scotspine1