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Not really, I just use a contract climber or groundie to assist on my jobs, I provide chipper, truck and rigging kit. They bring climbing kit and saw. I make a good living and so do they by all accounts.

 

What Ya complaining about then?

 

I pm'd a well respected Arbtalk member recently. His day rate was £170..... Are you saying he was too far out?

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That last paragraph is so important Billy.

Typical 2 men, Tranny, chipper.

Plenty of start ups shoot for £300/day and think they're great.

Me and Stevo price a job at £450 and they bitch about us saying we're lowballers (they had £600 on it because it would take them 2 days).

We smash it in a day because we sort of know what we're doing.

 

These outfits either fold quickly or plod on propped up by Granny's money or service pensions.

 

I think we're still too cheap!

 

I'm pretty well sorted now with regular clients, but it took longer than it should have.

 

I can't believe how many firms want a reputation for being cheap?

I want a reputation for being good.

And having a nice arse and a winning smile.

 

 

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Hey Mark, just a small reality check on the Service pension issue. Granted, with public sector retrenchment over the previous few years, there has been a certain uplift in ex Service personnel entering the sector - no doubt, some good, some not so good but no difference in the college or work based "new blood" on a pro-rata basis I'd suggest.

 

I'd also suggest that the number entering the sector with a Service pension is really quite low since, give or take, it needs 20 years service to achieve a pension and those that qualify are more likely to be 40yo + before they qualify for a pension and they are not the sort of people that work for peanuts.

 

I can't comment on the "granny's money" perspective, but (and only from my own perspective and reading some of the ridiculous pricing threads on here) I can say, that having 30 years Service before starting this game, it's not those with Service pensions that are driving prices down.

 

I'd rather lay on the sofa and watch Homes under the Hammer than turn out for a mugs game that's been under priced!

 

I'm totally on side with the "we're too cheap" line. I genuinely believe the industry is obsessed with under pricing and kicking itself in the nuts for the sake of getting the work. Baffles me!

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I'm totally on side with the "we're too cheap" line. I genuinely believe the industry is obsessed with under pricing and kicking itself in the nuts for the sake of getting the work. Baffles me!

 

 

IMO this is due to the £300/ day lot lifestyles, idiots whatever you call them. If you want to turn over £1500 a week why not do it in 2 days instead of 5. Then they could have their free time, flexibility and all the other stuff that goes with the 'it's not about the money' types without depreciating the trade, everyone wins.

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Every time we have a how much should I charge thread the answers are the the same, what I costs one crew to do another crew can do it for less or another crew want double or treble. Price it for what u want or need to do the job and see if u get it. Since going VAT reg I've lost a few jobs but I've won plenty too, I put in the price I want and see what happens. The best way to look at these jobs is to know your running costs and what you need out of the job and then price accordingly.

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