Arbtalk 2015 General Election Poll

[skyhuck]

Trouble is with a hung parliament the minority parties have a big say.

Or you might say that's a good thing.

 

Yes but their input, like their support, will be very limited.

[egnsean]

Utter tosh!

 

Your entitled to your opinion Tory targets so far Disabled-unemployed-police-firemen-pensioners ect ect, you live in your dream world Me well im a realist

[Two Acres]

Pointless waste of time posting what others have said about this and that from years ago. We have the right to vote for who we want so do so. End of.

 

Of course you have the right to vote for who you want to Hodge but this is about debate that could, perhaps, influence some of us to change our opinions - sure

y thats a good thing? My quote from the Church of England is from February 2015 by the way, so very relevant IMHO

[Two Acres]

Your entitled to your opinion Tory targets so far Disabled-unemployed-police-firemen-pensioners ect ect, you live in your dream world Me well im a realist

 

Thats the Tory idea Egnsean - deflect attention from the wealthy bankers that are the cause of the financial crisis by getting us plebs to argueamonst ourselves about welfare scroungers, immigrants etc. Nasty, but clever and effective.

[skyhuck]

Of course you have the right to vote for who you want to Hodge but this is about debate that could, perhaps, influence some of us to change our opinions - sure

y thats a good thing? My quote from the Church of England is from February 2015 by the way, so very relevant IMHO

 

That sir is an oxymoron, IMO

[Two Acres]

That sir is an oxymoron, IMO

 

How so Skyhuck? I'm assuming, from your bold text, in terms of the irrelevance of The Church of England rather than the time difference of a couuple of months? If so I think its important to point out that the UK, while it might be a secular society is not a secular state. The Queen is, after all, the supreme leader of said Church.

[egnsean]

Thats the Tory idea Egnsean - deflect attention from the wealthy bankers that are the cause of the financial crisis by getting us plebs to argueamonst ourselves about welfare scroungers, immigrants etc. Nasty, but clever and effective.

 

Couldn't agree with you more Two Acres:thumbup1: unfortunately a lot of people cant see the wood for the trees!

[skyhuck]

How so Skyhuck? I'm assuming, from your bold text, in terms of the irrelevance of The Church of England rather than the time difference of a couuple of months? If so I think its important to point out that the UK, while it might be a secular society is not a secular state. The Queen is, after all, the supreme leader of said Church.

 

And what political relevance does she have???

[Two Acres]

And what political relevance does she have???

 

She doesnt have political relevance. However her position as leader of country and church gives legitimacy to the views of the leaders of the church - In my opinion.

[Tom D]

No, the Tories are the worst of a bad bunch. If they form any part of a new government we're doomed.

 

Doomed to what exactly?

 

 

 

You guys have short memories, our government went bust 6 years ago because they spent too much. The bank bailout which they blame only accounts for one 20th of our national debt. The rest was spent on public services (if your are being generous, waste if you aren't).

 

Unfortunately since the 1980's no political party has been prepared to be honest with the electorate and tell us the plain truth that unless we put up taxes significantly we can't afford the public services that we want. The old labour party were honest about it, they would openly admit that they were going to put up taxes and people still voted for them.

Now they all pretend that they can spend more while raising less tax. It simply can't be done.

 

You either cut services: (tories)

Borrow more: (Labour)

Tax more: (greens)

 

What you can't do is no change. It just isn't sustainable.