chainsaw tool strop carabiner

[Mark Bolam]

I can see how it is certainly one method but as we know there are moments when say you make your cut and then lower your saw running the strop through your fingers to control it if you see what I mean. I clip my saw straight onto my Caritool but still knowing it's attached to my harness via a tear away bungee is a good safety fallback.

 

That's how I roll Paul.

I feel the tearaway lanyard is pretty important, especially when felling big pieces.

I use a DMM Sentinel for strop attachment, such a nice compact little biner.

 

 

 

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[silky fox]

Exactly Mark, even if it happens once the life of the saw...I know its not the same but think how often a Handsaw is dropped from a tree...add a few Kgs to that and a running engine with a sharp Chain.

[Rock Monkey]

I asked this same question at my last LOLER inspection and was told it was fine to use the old karabniners that I no longer climb on (or had failed LOLER) for attaching my saw - providing they were clearly marked as not for climbing on. The bungee strop came under LOLER but the attachement point not.....

 

Of course this only applied if the gate locked!

[treequip]

I asked this same question at my last LOLER inspection and was told it was fine to use the old karabniners that I no longer climb on (or had failed LOLER) for attaching my saw - providing they were clearly marked as not for climbing on. The bungee strop came under LOLER but the attachement point not.....

 

Of course this only applied if the gate locked!

 

If it failed LOLER its dog lead material. No lifting at all.

[Rock Monkey]

Depends on your LOLER inspector then! I know I'd rather have an old 3 way krab whose gate stuck 1 in 10 times than a snap gate though. At the end of the day, you attach it to harness at beginning of climb and there it stays until you take it off. I've never heard of a 3 way openning by being brushed against something once its closed, surely thats why we use them?

[treequip]

Depends on your LOLER inspector then! I know I'd rather have an old 3 way krab whose gate stuck 1 in 10 times than a snap gate though. At the end of the day, you attach it to harness at beginning of climb and there it stays until you take it off. I've never heard of a 3 way openning by being brushed against something once its closed, surely thats why we use them?

 

Nope, it depends on the regulations and they say that if its not fit for use then its not fit for use, at all. If it fails you simply cant use it.

 

Three way biners do open under use, shortly after the HSE insisted on their use there was an incident where a 3 way opened in use resulting in a HSE press release

[Rock Monkey]

Well there's always exceptions to the rule. But if they were prone to opening frequently would we all put our life on the end of them? I must say I was surprised to be told I can use my old krabs but then I trust my LOLER inspector is better informed than me....

[Gary Prentice]

Depends on your LOLER inspector then! I've never heard of a 3 way openning by being brushed against something once its closed, surely thats why we use them?

 

I'll try to post the independent research, commissioned by the HSE, that shows all 3 way carabiners open under certain configurations in use. ( except the ball lock).

 

It makes me question why we do actually use them.

[Rock Monkey]

I'd like to read that if you can. Of course they aren't 100% safe - all krabs can open in a certain situation - 3 way/screw gate/snapgate.....etc. what I'm saying is that if the chances were very high we wouldn't be using them, we would have all moved to 4 way (prob not 100% either!)

[Mr. Squirrel]

I'll try to post the independent research, commissioned by the HSE, that shows all 3 way carabiners open under certain configurations in use. ( except the ball lock).

 

It makes me question why we do actually use them.

 

Me too, I'm going to start using opposing snap gates instead.

 

Sounds like interesting reading though.