Land Rover

[streets]

Good idea but, I'm really opposed to engine conversions. Especially v8 to diesel.

 

Several reasons, the v8 gearbox won't mate up to the 4cyl so it's a box change as well, the props are different, as are the fuel senders and fuel lines, bulkhead is different. The seat box and floor all need changing along with a endless list of other stuff from chassis engine mounts to power steering pipes because the engines use different pumps and the unions are different. Exhaust, radiatoretc etc etc.

to do it properly I'd be looking at £2k to put a tdi in and the base engine would be at least 15 years old (later 300tdi) and possibly upto 25years old for a 200 out of an early 90's land rover.

 

 

Really looking to Modify the back!!!

 

hmm your looking at about 1k for a factory speck conversion at lest that's what it cost me to do my 90 and £250 of that was for the 300tdi disco.

 

ruff guide

 

you can use the disco 300 engine and r380 gbox you just need to mod the gbox with a kit from Ashcroft Transmissions 5 min job then you can bolt on a defender selector housing from a scrap lt75 0r r380 then you got your self a defender speck r380.

 

defender air cleaner brakets can be picked up cheep ish from Island 4x4 and Paddock just down load your self a defender pdf parts book and it's easy to find the numbers.

 

cut the engine mounts off the disco chassis and use the disco gbox cross member (you will need to extend the disco gbox cross member side plates 40mm down at the bottom) 2 hole's line up the rest just mark and drill.

 

the engine mounts can be welded to the chassis before doping in the engine check the second post in this link 300 Tdi Conversion: Engine height on chassis rails - 90, 110, 130, All Defender & Puma Forum - LR4x4 - The Land Rover Forum this will put the engine where it should be in a 300tdi defender.

 

if your chassis number is after CA254407 prop's should be fine as v8 prop's from that number on are the same part numbers as 300tdi / td5 one's if not you can mod the front prop and buy a new 300tdi 110 back one.

 

(if the front axle was a rover one you could just use the disco front prop)

 

use the disco steering box and pas pipes just change the drop arm for a defender one.

 

use the disco rad and intercooler just cut all disco's mounting braket's off the rad frame and weld 4 studs on to the frame 2 top 2 bottom to mach the ones on the v8 rad.

 

fuel lines not a problem just use the feed and return ones off the disco and jone them to the feed and return ones on the 110 bypassing the v8's fuel filter housing then you just need some rubber fuel line to go from the 300's fuel pump to the discos fuel filter housing then to the Injector pump.

 

exhaust off the shelf for a defender 300tdi 110 shop about and you can get a complete system for less than £100.

 

new rad and intercooler hoses off the shelf for a defender 300tdi.

 

if you have the black plastic gearbox tunnel with the adapter screwed to the bulkhead you mite get away with using it and the seat box and floor plates if not you just need a 300tdi or td5 gearbox tunnel (there the same parts) and floor plates or cut you own from 3mm treadplate and a 300tdi / td5 / tdci puma seat box (all 3 will fit) i used a tdci puma one with out any problems.

 

easy weekends work if your a grown up that can weld and if it ant raining:thumbup:

 

now modding body work to make a king cab for a tipper now thats very easy now

[gensetsteve]

Please don't tow 4.5 tonnes behind a Land Rover.

[treequip]

Have you had one ? Only I have and it was no problem at all and used off road in anger, now my mates got it in a RRC but no longer useing it the engine was brought new from states and only covered about 7000 miles from new & could be for sale £1000

 

No but I have fitted 2 gearboxes to the same engine, so that's 3 its destroyed

[Qvatrees]

Please don't tow 4.5 tonnes behind a Land Rover.

 

would never dream of it, but I did borrow my fathers Passat the other day and found a recipt from the scrap yard that stated his all up weight 5400kg!!!!!i always knew he pushed his luck (farmer) but that shocked me.

Btw, if you see a blue 61 plate passat for sale in somerset............avoid like the plague!!!!!:lol:

[renewablejohn]

Please don't tow 4.5 tonnes behind a Land Rover.

 

Surely if the trailer is on air brakes its not a lot different from towing a 15 tonne trailer with a 6 tonne MB Trac.

[Homegrown]

Surely if the trailer is on air brakes its not a lot different from towing a 15 tonne trailer with a 6 tonne MB Trac.

 

 

Probaly not but the Land Rover will only be rated for 4 tonne with trailer brakes working off the service brake.

[gensetsteve]

Surely if the trailer is on air brakes its not a lot different from towing a 15 tonne trailer with a 6 tonne MB Trac.

 

I have towed 15 tonne of air braked trailer behind 6 tonnes of new John Deere and it felt as safe as houses. I have towed 5 tonne of trailer and generator round an air field and it felt like a fun parks ride with butt cheeks clenching the seat. Moved the same generator recently with the d4 and it was not much improved. A lot depends on how good the suspension is on the truck. In my opinion 3.5 tonne is enough behind an Amazon. 2.5 tonne is enough behind an old Land Rover.

[Qvatrees]

Surely if the trailer is on air brakes its not a lot different from towing a 15 tonne trailer with a 6 tonne MB Trac.

 

15t behind a mb track or similar at 18mph is going to be lots different than 4t behind a Landy at 50mph

[renewablejohn]

Probaly not but the Land Rover will only be rated for 4 tonne with trailer brakes working off the service brake.

 

Is that 4 tonne trailer if on trailer air brakes as part of the 6 tonne GTW.

[aspenarb]

I am going to convert a 110 to a mini artic with a fifth wheel coupling. I bought a complete set up off a guy that wanted his back as a landy. It has a hydraulic valve cut into the rear brake line that actuates the air to the trailer, the compressor is a 12volt thing that supplies a tank. I will post up some pics tomorrow. These are trailer rated at 4.5 ton but its a lot different in road manners than a drawbar trailer. The fifth wheel coupling is slightly forward of the rear axle so when you hit the brakes the front wheels dont go light and there is no snaking about no matter what you do , you can also lean on the vehicle to the tune of 1 ton which puts the whole thing at 7.5 ton gross.

 

Bob