Veg Juicing breakfast

[geoff]

Hear your points Tom, but in my case raw fruit and veg can create some real serious issues, in their whole form. Juicing them would get me the nutritious content without the digestive issues. Fibre for me is not an essential, in fact can be seriously detrimental if I have too much, so again juicing is a sensible alternative. I have spoken to my specialist nurse about this and it's not something they've recommended, because every patient is completely different, but her take on it is it's worth a try, a little to start, then build it up. As for sugars, well I used to eat a lot of chocolate, like a huge galaxy bar a day, I don't eat chocolate any more, I don't drink alcohol any more and I don't smoke, hell I want something in life that's a bit exciting

 

As someone who on occasion suffers from colitis, albeit under control, I find the juicing path a great way of getting the nutrients without the bulk.

[Steve Bullman]

Not being a kill joy, I like a juice myself, but its worth remembering that by juicing stuff you are throwing away all the fibre and concentrating the sugars to the point that some juices contain more than full fat coke!

 

You wouldn't sit down and eat 5 oranges, but you could easily juice and drink them. Do some googling and you might find that you are eating way more sugars than you think.

 

Fibre protects you from bowel cancer and the latest evidence suggests it may slow down fat absorption too.

 

So the healthy option may be just eat the veg and the fruit whole and have less of it.

 

Having said that some of the recipes in this thread sound delicious, especially the lemon and ginger, I fancy adding a shot of vodka to that one, I reckon it would be a winner!

I think you're missing the point Tom...its juicing all the veggies aswell remember which don't have all the sugar that the fruits do

[kev7937]

I think you're missing the point Tom...its juicing all the veggies aswell remember which don't have all the sugar that the fruits do

 

Isnt the difference between juicers and blenders the key here? Juicers leave the pulp etc behind but blenders like the nutribullet liquify evreything, whatever you chuck in it nuts, seeds etc.

[Steve Bullman]

Isnt the difference between juicers and blenders the key here? Juicers leave the pulp etc behind but blenders like the nutribullet liquify evreything, whatever you chuck in it nuts, seeds etc.

 

Well yes. You're probably not going to stick a load of kale in a blender, but a juicer you would. Ideally one of each is best

[kev7937]

Well yes. You're probably not going to stick a load of kale in a blender, but a juicer you would. Ideally one of each is best

 

The nutribullet is kind of a high end blender I think takes the lot and turns it into a delicious nutricious drink.

 

Wel thats what I hope, just ordered one.

Edited January 2, 2015 by kev7937
Added a couple of I's, still not sure.

[Daniel Jiggins]

The nutribullet is kind of a high end blender I think takes the lot and turns it into a delicious nutricious drink.

 

Wel thats what I hope, just ordered one.

 

 

The ninja does I've been putting kale in mine and it makes a very smooth drink

[Tom D]

You're a special case Andy, veg juice sounds ideal for you.

 

Still a lot of carbs in root veg too, A carrot has about the same as an orange or apple, its just more starchy. But starch is broken down into sugar by an enzyme in your saliva, so its sugar by the time you digest it..

 

Not saying its a bad thing, just watch out as you may end up taking a lot more calories than you think. Celery and kale and stuff like that is a different matter, but these are full of fibre that you are missing out on.

 

Its like the guys who say paleo doesn't work, but they're eating 10 eggs and a kilo of meat every day.....

 

Everything in moderation..

[Hodge]

A lot of juice recipes suggest psyllium husks for fibre, I put it in my juice. I don't just have juice either, but as part of a nutritionally balanced diet it's great, for me it's so I can loose some weight. I have a juice for breakfast, say Carrotts, apple and orange. Then maybe for lunch I have salmon or prawns and avvacodo in a wholemeal wrap, or some pasta then for evening meal have a decent meal but keeping portions small. Eat plenty of veg and keep the carbs low and a nice bit of fish or chicken.

[teepeeat]

As stated in my example above.

 

The amount of worthwhile nutrients in plant matter are in such small concentrations in their natural form that you would have to eat them in horse fodder quantities to survive and flourish. Yes vegetarians can live on such a diet, but most people turn to juicing for different reasons.

 

Either you're in bad health (i.e have tumours) and wish to revert the problem, in which case you give the digestive system a welcome rest and let the colon flush out and repair (gross I know), or you're looking to improve vitality or lose weight.

 

In the first instance it's impractical to much kilos of root veg each day and wouldn't give the digestive tract any rest bite.

 

In the latter scenario, one would be eating a healthy normal diet and supplementing this with the juices to 'cover all bases' and fill the gaps left by a modern diet.

 

Fibre is good for your body in proportionate quantities, so saving the pulp to use in breads or other foods is a good way of retaining it's usefulness proportionate to what your body needs or can cope with.

 

To put it in layman's terms, how many people start the day eating 4 oranges or 5 apples as opposed to drinking a large glass of the juice?

 

To continue in layman's terms, do we actually need to start the day with the juice of 4 apples or 5 oranges? Is the proportion of juice to fibre in the fruit not already appropriate. As said before, no specific knowledge, just curious about these things.

 

Agreed that we do need to 'fill gaps' in the modern diet as most crops these days seem to be grown from seed and tended in a manner that is optimised for drought resistance, pest resistance, yield (ie quantity vs quality) etc etc rather than nutritional value. And that is before all the processing and chemical additions between harvesting and us shoving it down our gobs.

[teepeeat]

As a person without a colon, I find it difficult to eat a nutritious recommended 5 a day as part of a balanced diet. Yes I can eat tinned veg, frozen veg, or fresh veg that have all the goodness boiled out of them, but they hardly meet the criteria for a healthy lifestyle. I hadn't considered a juicer, in fact I'm very surprised that my dietician hasn't at any time recommended this either. I don't require a huge amount of fibre in my diet, so I don't need to scour my innards, so the fibre in porridge or cereals is adequate. I shall enquire as to the worth of using a juicer, sounds good so far.

 

Andy, it would be interesting to hear your dieticians take on this whole debate - for the colonised and decolonised