Compact tractor and tipping trailer

[keptenjim]

Can't work out which is the best forum for this question but any help would be appreciated.

 

I have a compact tractor with tipping trailer. Problem is that the tipping trailer doesn't tip as the tractor does not have a spool valve installed. I gather that fitting a spool valve to the tractor is an expensive option. So I've been thinking of a PTO driven hydraulic pump to power the tipper but then where would the hydraulic supply come from? Also, what controls would be required to operate the tipper and would these controls be located somewhere on the trailer?

 

Thanks - Jim

[rusty290]

does the tractor have a tipping pipe on the tractor?

[doobin]

What tractor is it?

 

If you've got a 3-point linkage then you've got a hydraulic pump. Fitting a spool valve should be under £200 for parts and a lot less faff than a PTO pump combined with another oil tank that you have to hitch and unhitch every time you change from a trailer to an implement.

 

The only snag is that if it's a really baby compact tractor, the oil reservoir might not have enough to fill the trailer ram, but that's unlikely if the trailer matches the tractor size wise anyway.

[Matthew Storrs]

I used to have a tractor which had insufficient hydraulic pressure to run a post driver, the solution was to have a pump which ran off the PTO plus a 25 liter reservoir for the oil and it worked very well.

I'm sure you could do similar but how it would compare in price against having a spool fitted I'm not so sure.

[IVECOKID]

What make of Tractor ?

It should have a pipe near the top link pin and may have a blank fitted and most compact tractor trailers are one way rams so a easy job to sort .

 

My Yanmar has a tipping pipe on but its fitted with a blank and just needs a snap on spool or fit the older screw on valve which i prefer .

 

Ste

[RDB logs]

What make of Tractor ?

It should have a pipe near the top link pin and may have a blank fitted and most compact tractor trailers are one way rams so a easy job to sort .

 

My Yanmar has a tipping pipe on but its fitted with a blank and just needs a snap on spool or fit the older screw on valve which i prefer .

 

Ste

 

I had one and did this, when the links get to the top the trailer Gos up.

 

Eventually I cut in to the flow from the pump to fit a double actor spool with pressure relief, was about £200,

Good luck

[keptenjim]

What tractor is it?

 

If you've got a 3-point linkage then you've got a hydraulic pump. Fitting a spool valve should be under £200 for parts and a lot less faff than a PTO pump combined with another oil tank that you have to hitch and unhitch every time you change from a trailer to an implement.

 

The only snag is that if it's a really baby compact tractor, the oil reservoir might not have enough to fill the trailer ram, but that's unlikely if the trailer matches the tractor size wise anyway.

 

It's a Kubota A17 (22HP grey import) It has a 3 pin linkage system. What sort of plumbing would be required to connect the 3-pin linkage hydraulic pump to the spool valve? Would it be a relatively easy job? Interesting what you say about the costs - I was quoted some stupid figure years ago. I'm going to relook at having one installed because as you say, the PTO scenario combined with a separate oil tank would be a lot of trouble. Unfortunately I can't have a look at the back end of the tractor right now as I'm away from home for a short while

 

IVECOKID - what's a tipping pipe?

 

Thanks

[IVECOKID]

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You should have something looking like this near the top link and a pipe running under seat ,but if its a more modern tractor then it will have quick release couplings fitted .

 

Ste

[keptenjim]

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You should have something looking like this near the top link and a pipe running under seat ,but if its a more modern tractor then it will have quick release couplings fitted .

 

Ste

 

No I'm certain I don't have one of those on my tractor - even with the quick release fitting

[wisecobandit]

IF its only for use for that particular trailer then another option is to fit a 12v powered hydraulic unit to the trailer itself? (like what the 3.5 tonne ifors etc have)

By the time you've bought a pto pump, hydraulic tank etc it would probably work out cheaper.

12V Single Acting Hydraulic Power Packs for Trailer Tipper Applications