Oh no! Not another zigzag :(

[Arran Turner]

Can you tend slack one handed with the zz?

And is the SJ the same in that respect?

The guy I buy my kit off advised me against the SJ due to its "free fall" characteristics. Bit scary in a work environment.

He then advised me to get a ZZ.

 

Currently on a HC with an eye tie hitch.

 

 

SJ tends stack better in my opinion, the spiderjack is fine you'll only free fall if you hold the lever right down, but there is no reason you would hold it right down useless tea is ready on the deck

[TIMON]

With the S.J You only free-fall when you descend on it without applying the wooden brake at the same time.....The ZZ self-tends.... perfect on limb walks....add the fact that it has little or no sit-back and with practice allows for smooth movement and working position.

 

 

Thanks for this.... Do you think that time spent on a ZZ would prepare me for a SJ? Bearing in mind I've only been climbing for about 12 months.

 

I'm enjoying the HC right now having progressed from Blake's to prussic to HC...

[silky fox]

Time spent on a prussick will help you descend on a ZigZag because of the similarities with "feeling" the links collapse in your hand like a prussick bunching up and allowing the rope to move through it.....but the ascent on S.J and ZZ are similar in that you can feed your climbing line "hand over hand" into the device gaining height as you go.....but like Arran said,if you have an emergency on the ground like a cuppa you pull the trigger on the S.j (without applying the wooden brake) and you will arrive there in seconds!! But feathering the brake is advisable.

[TIMON]

Many thanks for your input guys...

Still think it's going to be a tough choice...., going to APF on the Friday so might get a chance to check them out there....

Timon

[Mr. Squirrel]

Thanks for this.... Do you think that time spent on a ZZ would prepare me for a SJ? Bearing in mind I've only been climbing for about 12 months.

 

I'm enjoying the HC right now having progressed from Blake's to prussic to HC...

 

I'd been climbing for a grand total of 4 months when I got a spiderjack, so basically learnt to climb on one. If it's what you fancy just get one, nothing will prepare you for using levers in a tree. It does take a bit of getting used to but ultimately I think it's pretty intuitive.

[arbmonkey]

There is 10yr warrenty on this issue

[Gary Prentice]

There is 10yr warrenty on this issue

 

I wonder if that includes wearing parts?

[skyhuck]

I wonder if that includes wearing parts?

 

I believe the warrantee is against defective materials, IE cracking, it would be unreasonable for general wear and tear to be be covered.

[Gary Prentice]

I believe the warrantee is against defective materials, IE cracking, it would be unreasonable for general wear and tear to be be covered.

 

Bit of wishful thinking on my part then:laugh1:

 

Although the waranty is good, for the consumer, I think their provision of it is going to bite them in the ass. They've used it to promote their confidence in the product but can you imagine the returns in the future.

 

Simple metal fatigue with daily use, has to become a factor over time so IMO a lot of these will fail within the warrenty period. Good for the user, but bad for the company when every problem gets highlighted on threads like these.

[skyhuck]

Bit of wishful thinking on my part then:laugh1:

 

Although the waranty is good, for the consumer, I think their provision of it is going to bite them in the ass. They've used it to promote their confidence in the product but can you imagine the returns in the future.

 

Simple metal fatigue with daily use, has to become a factor over time so IMO a lot of these will fail within the warrenty period. Good for the user, but bad for the company when every problem gets highlighted on threads like these.

 

I'm using a mark one and it still in great shape.