Looking for some friendly advice on pay...

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

Where I come from no one is going to work for less than 55-60 a day, and I dont blame them! thats for basic labour,not a kitted out climber.

 

Flippin right !

[gibbon]

No offence but that's ridiculous! HTF is someone supposed to live on that????!!!!!! I make no apologies for saying there are some tight mean greedy employers around here

 

Hello??? It's 2009! There's something called eveyday items - they cost quite alot now...

 

Piz Doff

 

I honestly mean no offence to you here but do you climb? I ask this as by your posts I get the impression you do contract forestry work with some private tree surgery. If I'm wrong please ingore the rest.

 

If your not a climber do you provide arial rescue for a subby climber you get in?

 

If you don't climb what kind of experience and guidance would a new climber with less than a years experince get with you? Learning from an experienced climber is by far the most important thing for a new guy imo, and make all the difference long term.

 

I am not based too far from you and a few years back I was freelance climbing for many outfits. I know quite a few of the guys still FL climbing and I know what the standard is and what the going rate is.

 

I think you will find that the going rate down here for a pretty compatant climber is around £110-£120 per day depending on the volume of work you give them. More if they are top notch or providing a vehicle or more kit.

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

I honestly mean no offence to you here but do you climb? I ask this as by your posts I get the impression you do contract forestry work with some private tree surgery. If I'm wrong please ingore the rest.

 

If your not a climber do you provide arial rescue for a subby climber you get in?

 

If you don't climb what kind of experience and guidance would a new climber with less than a years experince get with you? Learning from an experienced climber is by far the most important thing for a new guy imo, and make all the difference long term.

 

I am not based too far from you and a few years back I was freelance climbing for many outfits. I know quite a few of the guys still FL climbing and I know what the standard is and what the going rate is.

 

I think you will find that the going rate down here for a pretty compatant climber is around £110-£120 per day depending on the volume of work you give them. More if they are top notch or providing a vehicle or more kit.

 

You're not far wrong - I haven't climbed for nearly ten years and have no intention of doing it again (too old and too fat!). I have employed the same #1climber (with over 10 yrs exp) since 2004 and pay him a minimum of £150 a day (he supplies his own transport which is never far, saw and climbing gear. I supply fuel, oil and lunch / drinks and based on 8 hours with an am and pm comfort break and 1/2 hr ish lunch) Occasionally, it will drop slightly if its straight felling work with no climbing but if the Forestry Commision can pay me over £100.00 a day for thinning pre-selected (blazed) Sitka which requires very little still and practically no experience imo, then this £45 a day lark is wrong imo. In fact my #1 climber more often gets £200 a day and our rescue guy (climber #2) gets £150 minimum too; I just get the leftovers. Theoretically I can aerial rescue but given the above physical condition mentioned and lack of recent practice wouldn't trust myself hence always on the safe side with another body. Interestingly, my climber said to me the other day he would still work for me even if for less money. I asked him why; his answer was personal but I was chuffed about it.

[Mesterh]

Gotta say you do pay extremely well

 

I doubt there are many guys/gals around the country getting even close to £200 a day!

[gibbon]

The difference is the guidance these guys get. I pay newest trainee minimum wage paye. But in less than 12months he has, chipper, first aid, cs 30, 31, 38 and is working towards 39. When he climbs it cost me as he is slow. My other guy gets a truck loads of training and paid overseas trips from time to time. He is also paye and gets alot less than £120 a day.

 

A new guys needs guidance years of experience and to get the top bucks.

[Joe]

No offence but that's ridiculous! HTF is someone supposed to live on that????!!!!!! I make no apologies for saying there are some tight mean greedy employers around here

 

Hello??? It's 2009! There's something called eveyday items - they cost quite alot now...

 

Piz Doff

 

i'm still at college and only working part time, but i get very well looked after by my employer, and he has looked after me since i did my school work experience when i was 15 with him, i think it is a fair wage, and i get taught a lot and sometimes i will cost more to employ than of use. i feel that i get a fair wage. and cheers for caring tcd

[not for sale sorry]

im on around £45 a day, and I've been in arb working for the same firm for over two years, i've got self funded cs30,31,32,38. i climb most days at work and have all my own climbing kit and ppe. i think i get a fair wage, and i think you'd be looking at around £60 a day tops if you don't have a lot of experience

 

dont mean to be horrible but personally i think he saw you coming and done you a gooden, dar i say it on here, but i get that sometimes for half a mornings work grass cutting!

[Joe]

dont mean to be horrible but personally i think he saw you coming and done you a gooden, dar i say it on here, but i get that sometimes for half a mornings work grass cutting!

 

again cheers for caring mate, i absolutley love my job and i would work for free for the experience if it wasn't a proper job (i hope he dosent read this lol). but again like i've said i feel i get paid fairly.

Edited June 7, 2009 by Joe

[gibbon]

At least your not cutting grass for it Joe

[Tree Man Tom]

i'm still at college and only working part time, but i get very well looked after by my employer, and he has looked after me since i did my school work experience when i was 15 with him, i think it is a fair wage, and i get taught a lot and sometimes i will cost more to employ than of use. i feel that i get a fair wage. and cheers for caring tcd

 

You sound exactly like me joe, same posistion and everything

 

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