Man dies after going through woodchipper

[jomoco]

If you guys don't want to discuss whole tree chipper fatalities, and the best methods pros use to prevent them happening on their crews?

 

Then why post a thread bouta 43 year old treeworker being eaten alive on the job by a 2400 Morbark?

 

Jomoco

[Craig Johnson]

I think that you were the first one to change the thread topic, "How many more dismembered treeworkers before you feel inclined to do your job Peter?"

you may have personnel feelings on the subject but, there's no reason to piss on our tent, find the right one

[difflock]

Jomoco,

As I explained to our Director (and quite an astounding human being btw) in respect of Risk Assements.

I always conduct "Dynamic Riak assessments"

Whether when bracing Senior Managment in respect o, the chances o, getting into her knickers of a lunch hour.

Or

Driving after consuming 2 pints of beer.

Or indeed

in respect of climbing a big ash tree, via a rotten wooden ladder, which I pulled up after mesel to advance even higher, this after a boozy lunch, armed with a wee MS260.

I order to cut off an overhanging limb about 15" to 18" across, which I assessd would probably shoot back towards the ladder I was standing on (and it did, and crushed the ladder to smithereens byw)

But correctly assessing if I held on to a branch above, and did not particularly worry about the chain saw(which survived unharmed btw) and smartly pulled my legs up out of harms way.

I would be perfectly Ok

And I was.

BECAUSE I was aware of the very real risks, carefully thought it through(despite the beer), and had an escape route planned

Cos I possess a functioning brain, in respect of such essentially mechanically governed matters.

I am not so hot at reading Social Situations/strangers.

 

Others have better Social Skills but appear to be entirely inept/uneducatable in matters mechanical, or those governed by the simple laws of Gravity/Physics.

 

Cheers

M

Edited June 26, 2014 by difflock

[aspenarb]

 

That my following that rec, saving four treeworker lives on the job on my own crews, is somehow a negligible point, with no direct bearing on the topic of this thread.

 

I gather you disagree with them and OSHA, right?

 

Jomoco

 

Jomoco I think that when it comes down to H&S and the well being of our staff we are all singing from the same hymn sheet. My term idiot may be a bit strong so in the absences of a more fitting term I will refer to them as LALA (less able labouring associates ). I know I could take an unbraked saw ,chop up a tree and feed it into a chipper with no safety equipment whatsoever. I guarantee I will not end up dead,cut or injured in any way as could every one else on here that used kit from yesteryear. I would be seriously concerned if I had to save the lives of four of my men from a chipper, I have as previously stated needed to pull lala`s to one side and retrain them on there use but thats where it stops. I can understand tedium setting in if faced with feeding a chipper all day and our lads take it in turn which breaks up the monotony . Its not the machines that are a problem its their operators and I feel that any more gadgets stuck to a chipper will become a PITA and get bypassed. Two drivers can set off in the same type of car on the same journey following the same route, one will get there and one will end up wrapped round a tree. Is the car at fault or is one of the drivers less abled ?

 

Bob

[ArthurBottlesworth]

Back in 1980's someone drilled through electric cable in bathroom when fitting towelrail ( or similar)

 

Subsequently someone was electocuted and died so wiring reg's for bathrooms were changed to stop it happening again .......

 

If you allow 40 people to get chopped the regulations need changing ----- no question

 

To paraphrase Al Capone

Once is happenstance

Twice is co-incidence

Three times is Enemy Action.......

And forty times is just bloody stupdity ....

[jomoco]

Thanks Arthur.

 

I heartily agree!

 

Jomoco:001_smile:

[ArthurBottlesworth]

Sad thing is fatal accidents are cheaper than permanent injury

If it left them paraplegics and insurers had to cough £10m every time it happened

Do you think it would still be happening ?

But a fatal accident is probably only £30k (ish)

[paul kelly]

thoughts are with his family & Friends

 

R I P

 

It only takes a loss of consentration for a split second !!!

 

ouch not good

[easy-lift guy]

Sad thing is fatal accidents are cheaper than permanent injury

If it left them paraplegics and insurers had to cough £10m every time it happened

Do you think it would still be happening ?

But a fatal accident is probably only £30k (ish)

 

By the time the sharks finish this suit out of court the amount will be 20 to 30 times your estimate:sneaky2

easy-lift guy

[ArthurBottlesworth]

I did consider writing a murder book where the hit men were employed by insurance companies to top paraplegics BEFORE. They got their settlement .....

 

Courts work out anticipated cost of care per annum and multiply it by life expectancy

If they are dead life expectancy falls to zero ...... Heap of ££££ saved

 

Cynical old world innit ....