salary review

[Mr Oz]

its very useful indeed mate.thanks for your time and input.im geting determined to go on by own each fay passes by but waiting for the rite time.hopefully end of 2015.please go head for any advice or criticism im open to both

 

 

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[TTS North]

The longer you leave it to jump out of the aircraft, the more doubts about your parachute you will have!

 

It is possible to become institutionalised to working for someone else.

 

You're unhappy as you are and you're asking a question to which you already know the answer. The right time is now.

 

You're better qualified than I am. I had less than you when I went it alone.

 

Get on with it.

[Steve Bullman]

The longer you leave it to jump out of the aircraft, the more doubts about your parachute you will have!

 

It is possible to become institutionalised to working for someone else.

 

You're unhappy as you are and you're asking a question to which you already know the answer. The right time is now.

 

You're better qualified than I am. I had less than you when I went it alone.

 

Get on with it.

 

[Silverwood]

The longer you leave it to jump out of the aircraft, the more doubts about your parachute you will have!

 

It is possible to become institutionalised to working for someone else.

 

You're unhappy as you are and you're asking a question to which you already know the answer. The right time is now.

 

You're better qualified than I am. I had less than you when I went it alone.

 

Get on with it.

 

Bang on mate.

[jltree]

I think £9 p/h isn't much above minimum wage, and a qualified cutter is worth more. At all levels this is a hazardous, and very demanding job.

 

FWIW I pay (on self-employed basis).

 

£10 per hour - Unskilled groundsman (no tickets bar first aid, just manual labour - not even allowed to fuel saws). I provide safety gear and restrict what they can do. My main groundie has never had a running saw in his hand. After 8 hours on site they go to a flat fee of £100. I expect very hard work from them.

 

£15 per hour - qualified on the ground cutter.

 

£20 per hour - qualified climber.

 

I use another qualified climber and two groundsmen - but I do have to mix and match carefully to protect my profit on a job.

 

I expect everyone to do their job and the jobs below them as well. e.g. If I'm up the tree then the other climber is dragging brash out with the groundie or feeding the chipper. No work to rule here. Everyone pitches in.

 

If it's predominately a ground cutting job, or there's only a small fee, then I might negotiate the climber down to £15 per hour. It's up to him if he wants it.

 

For the qualified guys I provide fuel but I expect them to have their own saws and kit. (Doesn't stop them using my saws when my back's turned, but hey!).

 

If it's a short job and some travelling involved by the guys using their own transport I may give them an added payment to help out with that.

 

I hear tales of qualified people working for £75 a day, or being kept as an 'apprentice' for years to keep their salary down.

 

I don't think it's right.

 

People work harder and smarter, and they are more committed to you and your business if they can see that you value what they do and reward them at a level which demonstrates that. But I expect a level of effort in return which reflects their appreciation of the fact. It goes both ways.

 

One more thing - the guys I bring in know exactly how much a job is worth, and how much we are making from it on an individual basis - including my own profit.

 

I mainly do residential work, which can pay quite well.

 

Don't know if this is of much use to you.

 

well if you want to pay me 40 grand a year for being a qualified experienced climber.... Am fairly sure you would not be in business long especially uo north

[Eddy_t]

sorry for not making it very clear.my boss said they have sent my job description to external consultant and took them 2 month and they said average salary for skilled arborist is 15000 to 18000 a year.This includes London area as well apparently they checked jobs from south mainly so im getting a good wage.my salary comes to 18600 before tax.

 

 

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That's not much round here, it's £60-70 a day! That's either trainee with 31,38,39 or groundy pay.

 

A decent climber is £20-25k

 

 

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[jltree]

look at what glendale pay or bartletts .. Bartletts pay just over 20 for lead climber and glendale , just a bit more than a paper round..

amey on the lv contract around £8 an hour and also fountains around £8.50...

So they are all big companies but can only speak from leeds up to the north... They may pay more in other areas

[TTS North]

well if you want to pay me 40 grand a year for being a qualified experienced climber.... Am fairly sure you would not be in business long especially uo north

 

I don't pay them a year, it's per job at the rates I mentioned. If there was a years worth of work then I suppose that's what they'd get. I think 40k pro rata is about right. My guys are self-employed and have to cover their own business costs and don't have the security of regular employment from me.

 

I've been doing this for seven years up north and it's a model that works well for me.

 

I probably charge a customer less for a job than most because the business is operated on a very lean basis and costs are under tight control, I just pass more of the fee onto the boys than others might.

[eggsarascal]

I don't pay them a year, it's per job at the rates I mentioned. If there was a years worth of work then I suppose that's what they'd get. I think 40k pro rata is about right. My guys are self-employed and have to cover their own business costs and don't have the security of regular employment from me.

 

I've been doing this for seven years up north and it's a model that works well for me.

 

I probably charge a customer less for a job than most because the business is operated on a very lean basis and costs are under tight control, I just pass more of the fee onto the boys than others might.

 

You my friend sound like a top bloke to work for.

 

I thought sharing wealth was a thing of the past!

[Mr Oz]

ive got all my climbing gear including saws,i d like to think im good at problem solving(usually:)paperwork and cost controlling.ive got all my tickets i need.i can afford a landy or somthing to start with.so ive got it all planned in my head but its just being brave enough to go ahead and hand my notice in or is that too quick to jump in deep end.i wonder if any of you guys been in similar situation and i like to know whether u still employed or got your own setup.

 

 

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