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30 minutes ago, Jwoodgardenmaintenance said:

That's the email with the price I'm sure he said the e27 was only £27499 so I don't know if its the list price or what? ? 

 

Jack 

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Sounds OK to me. I was quoted just under 20K for an E20 with three buckets and hitch. You've specced a Hardford powertilt (3k? must be at least) and a few extras. Think carefully about whether you go down this route, or take an S30 hitch and buckets and finance a tilty later, as 3k is a big chunk towards a basic tilty. If you think you might want to do this, then also spec the machine with a second aux, as I have- £535 according to my E20 options list. Haggle with them to throw this in or something.

 

Letting you pay the VAT on installments is why they appear high- guess it's lease purchase rather than hire purchase (I think that's the difference anyhow). Should be fine, but obviously check what the payment is to take ownership at the end of the term. E27 I was quoted the same money as you on (and it's worth every penny!!) so I don't think they're loading your quote.

 

If you can get approved for the finance on that (QUICK! it ends at the end of the month!), I'd add another two years warranty, then get out there and put all your effort into getting work for it. You'll need just two days a month for the next five years at £250-£280 a day to cover the finance and running costs. Find yourself another five days with it and quit your minimum wage job, then you will have time to grow properly.

 

Go for it mate, you won't look back. Finance on something like the above isn't bad or even particularly risky- how can you not find two days a month?? Three tops if you were a desperate fool and went out at under £200 a day. It's when people get cocky and start to take bigger risks that things can go pear shaped, but even then - better to have tried ay?

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6 minutes ago, Jwoodgardenmaintenance said:

Any other brands the kobelco is the same dealer as this one my other locals within 50 mile is jcb doosan takeuchi 

 

Jack 

Any kubota dealers nearby?

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11 minutes ago, Jwoodgardenmaintenance said:

Just to be nosey pm if you want how much was your tak 216?

 

Jack 

Don't waste your time with a TB216. Worst machine I've driven for a long while. Totally gutless and unpredicatable slewing. My Hyundai is twice the machine, and E19/20 would proabbly be even better judging by my two Bobcats.

 

Apart from anything else, the interest you in particular (no offense) would be paying on another brand means that Bobcat at 0% five years is your only sensible option. I don't think you'll be dissapointed, and like me you've driven a size up and size down.

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6 minutes ago, Jwoodgardenmaintenance said:

Just to be nosey pm if you want how much was your tak 216?

 

Jack 

I put down £5200 inc the VAT. the rest is £380 a month over 48 months. Full cab etc. I sourced the powertilt hitch myself.

however a better deal would have been a new hitachi zx19u which was offered to me for £14k plus the VAT. It was canopy which living where I do in the mist and rain never works for me!

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1 minute ago, Matthew Storrs said:

I put down £5200 inc the VAT. the rest is £380 a month over 48 months. Full cab etc. I sourced the powertilt hitch myself.

however a better deal would have been a new hitachi zx19u which was offered to me for £14k plus the VAT. It was canopy which living where I do in the mist and rain never works for me!

ZX19 was almost as bad- I demoed one before buying my Hyundai. I don't rate them much. Very tall to get on and off and lacking in power, particularly tracking.

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3 minutes ago, doobin said:

Don't waste your time with a TB216. Worst machine I've driven for a long while. Totally gutless and unpredicatable slewing. My Hyundai is twice the machine, and E19/20 would proabbly be even better judging by my two Bobcats.

 

Apart from anything else, the interest you would probably be paying on in particular (no offense) would be paying on another brand means that Bobcat at 0% five years is your only sensible option. I don't think you'll be dissapointed, and like me you've driven a size up and size down.

Don’t say that! I was going to offer mine to him!

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40 minutes ago, Jwoodgardenmaintenance said:

Ideally I'd like rather a encon or steelwrist but there right out of my price league plus a waste on a 2 ton machine and yeah 0% and  the vat deposit is spread through the monthly installments over 60 months 

 

Jack 

You can finance one at a later date- just make sure you buy an S30 hitch and buckets now, and spec a second aux in case you want the cheapest tilty with no control system. There's a spread on a DX19 (same machine in orance as E19) with a tilty in this months UK Plant Operators- doesn't look half bad with it.

 

 

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1 hour ago, doobin said:

Don't waste your time with a TB216. Worst machine I've driven for a long while. Totally gutless and unpredicatable slewing. My Hyundai is twice the machine, and E19/20 would proabbly be even better judging by my two Bobcats.

 

Apart from anything else, the interest you in particular (no offense) would be paying on another brand means that Bobcat at 0% five years is your only sensible option. I don't think you'll be dissapointed, and like me you've driven a size up and size down.

Cheers for that ? so it's a decent price then I might leave the tilt hitch and just buy a tilting grading bucket once I start earning with the machine 

I've drove jcb volvo takeuchi and Hyundai along with bobcat and bobcat have been the most comfortable and smooth to operate I really like the key code security system instead of keys as I'm really bad at putting keys down and forgetting where I put them ? I'm going to go and see them on Monday and see what I can sort out with him about different accessories ect 

 

Cheers 

Jack 

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1 hour ago, Matthew Storrs said:

I put down £5200 inc the VAT. the rest is £380 a month over 48 months. Full cab etc. I sourced the powertilt hitch myself.

however a better deal would have been a new hitachi zx19u which was offered to me for £14k plus the VAT. It was canopy which living where I do in the mist and rain never works for me!

Cheers for that I'm the same as you cumbrian weather is unreal one minute it's full sun the next it's snowing ?? full cab is the only way 

 

Jack 

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1 hour ago, doobin said:

You can finance one at a later date- just make sure you buy an S30 hitch and buckets now, and spec a second aux in case you want the cheapest tilty with no control system. There's a spread on a DX19 (same machine in orance as E19) with a tilty in this months UK Plant Operators- doesn't look half bad with it.

 

 

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Id love to try a setup like- To me that lowest picture just looks wrong. The whole geometry that the engcon changes. Surely breakout must be massively reduced looking at the distance from the tipping link to the tip of the bucket- the leverage is collosal- an extra 12-18” of height in there. When you curl the bucket it in youd have a job not to foul it on the boom on a little machine like that.

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