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After agonising about buying wood instead of those compressed briquettes I looked round for a local firewood supplier. He said £50 for a dumpy bag of hardwood which he estimated to be 0.7 cubic metres. I've stacked his delivery in the woodshed. A few bits of Scots pine and the dreaded poplar in there. Stacked it loose and measured..... It's only 0.45 cubic metres worth. Disappointing.

 

Because I was paying for 0.7 cubic metres of wood NOT a 0.7 cubic metre bag.

 

Nope; 0.7 loose - who buys a 0.7m3 solid lump of wood?! Such a lump would yield nearer 1.4m3 loose. Loose load is the term and yes the seller might / should have clarified that.

 

Funny how suppliers never say "well it's a 0.7 cubic metre bag but it won't contain 0.7 cubic metres of logs." Maybe that would affect sales. But what would I know ;)

 

Never had anyone (thousands) ask what the metreage is in solid timber terms. A 1m3 loose load in our truck has consistently been very close to 350 logs sawn at hetas standard length 10" since the year dot. Volume occupied by loose logs is always bang on - it's only fair and right.

 

If only logs were sold by some sort of standardised unit for then it would allow easy comparison of products and prices between sellers. It's a lottery as it is.

 

I think people see £ signs only. They'd rather consider £50 for 1m3 green elder than £75 for 1m3 bone dry beech :001_rolleyes:

 

:001_rolleyes: never assume anything... ask

 

and 50.00 for a builders bag is going rate

 

No it absolutely is not! The "going rate" varies dramatically regionally, even within the same county; hell even woodworks on here is 5 miles from me and can get £20 more a m3 in a more rural area...

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Do you think I'm a difficult customer just because I'm querying the amount of wood I got?

 

£50 for 1 loose cubic metre is half price but you still want it topped up by a 3rd for free. If you have tickets and are familiar with the trade maybe you should have asked if it was a stacked solid metre.

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I think the sarcastic comments are uncalled for. Given the number of firewood sellers still advertising "ton bag of logs" the industry is far from perfect.

 

Perhaps it would be more constructive for contributors to offer the wording of the advert they would place and see if this perennial "misunderstanding" can be put to bed once and for all.

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Nope; 0.7 loose - who buys a 0.7m3 solid lump of wood?! Such a lump would yield nearer 1.4m3 loose. Loose load is the term and yes the seller might / should have clarified that.

 

 

 

Never had anyone (thousands) ask what the metreage is in solid timber terms. A 1m3 loose load in our truck has consistently been very close to 350 logs sawn at hetas standard length 10" since the year dot. Volume occupied by loose logs is always bang on - it's only fair and right.

 

 

 

I think people see £ signs only. They'd rather consider £50 for 1m3 green elder than £75 for 1m3 bone dry beech :001_rolleyes:

 

 

 

No it absolutely is not! The "going rate" varies dramatically regionally, even within the same county; hell even woodworks on here is 5 miles from me and can get £20 more a m3 in a more rural area...

 

All valid points and well put. I totally agree.

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£50 for 1 loose cubic metre is half price but you still want it topped up by a 3rd for free. If you have tickets and are familiar with the trade maybe you should have asked if it was a stacked solid metre.

 

 

Please read my original post. I wasn't expecting a cubic metre...

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bowlander can you let us know was the wood you paid for advertised as 0.7cub mtr of logs. also how do you know that all you got was 0.4 cub mtr of logs. be interested how you mesure if you have had half a cube or a full cube.

i can see your veiws that you paid for what you say should have been 0,7 mtr cube but you believe you only had 0.4 mtr cube. as for bags if you buy them in the bags then buy them as i sell them one builders bag of split logs hardwood. no its x cube of logs and mine are loose loaded to stack them neat in a bag be double the price i charge for a bag lot of work

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bowlander can you let us know was the wood you paid for advertised as 0.7cub mtr of logs. also how do you know that all you got was 0.4 cub mtr of logs. be interested how you mesure if you have had half a cube or a full cube.

i can see your veiws that you paid for what you say should have been 0,7 mtr cube but you believe you only had 0.4 mtr cube. as for bags if you buy them in the bags then buy them as i sell them one builders bag of split logs hardwood. no its x cube of logs and mine are loose loaded to stack them neat in a bag be double the price i charge for a bag lot of work

 

Hi, I asked the seller how big his builders bags are because I know that there is a lot of variation. He said they were approx 0.7 cubic metres. I stacked wood loosely in the woodstore then measured the stack. 1.07 metres high X 0.78 metres deep X 0.54 metres wide = 0.45 cubic metres.

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