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In theory the rope will be twice the length of the height using a top tie in point. Not sure what your asking?

 

Whst i mean by this is instesd of leaving a long tail on the bowline or alpine butterfly But as ian just said to me tie a throwline is there other ways that are quite handy and quick thanks

 

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Will Adam Bourne ever make me a stiff tether?

 

Lol, I will buddy once I get my hands on some decent cheap shrink wrap, and also now its been brought to my attention the zk2 instruction Manual may stop me from making them for people who operate under LOLER and PUWER ?? Grey areas!!!!

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