NPTC's do they need tightening/stricter assesment?

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I have received some info regarding a young man being allowed to bottle out of going above 12ft on his arial rescue certificate and still being passed despite obvious nerves and a lack of comfort in climbing.

 

This on top of various other statements regarding assessments for NPTC certifications. I feel this one is a serious enough issue to start raising some concern over what really is going on with these essential tickets.

 

I also feel this just proves that this is now all a tick box exercise that no one is taking seriously anymore, as this young lad is now potentially able t be sent out with a climber to act as rescue candidate.

 

this is unacceptable IMO and It degrades the system.

 

I do appreciate that the \NPTC is a basic assessment of competence, but this is an area of competence that should be more tightly monitored and has very serious ramifications.

 

I am not being a drama queen, this is not on.

 

thoughts and opinions on this please

[treequip]

  Tony Croft aka hamadryad said:

I have received some info regarding a young man being allowed to bottle out of going above 12ft on his arial rescue certificate and still being passed despite obvious nerves and a lack of comfort in climbing.

 

This on top of various other statements regarding assessments for NPTC certifications. I feel this one is a serious enough issue to start raising some concern over what really is going on with these essential tickets.

 

I also feel this just proves that this is now all a tick box exercise that no one is taking seriously anymore, as this young lad is now potentially able t be sent out with a climber to act as rescue candidate.

 

this is unacceptable IMO and It degrades the system.

 

I do appreciate that the NPTC is a basic assessment of competence, but this is an area of competence that should be more tightly monitored and has very serious ramifications.

 

I am not being a drama queen, this is not on.

 

thoughts and opinions on this please

 

Is this first hand information or hear say??

 

If its the latter this thread should end here untill you have FACTS

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

  treequip said:

Is this first hand information or hear say??

 

If its the latter this thread should end here untill you have FACTS

 

Do I have permission to give names and dates locations?

[Tommy_B]

  Tony Croft aka hamadryad said:

Do I have permission to give names and dates locations?

 

I wouldn't have said so Tony. Surely this would be more an issue with the individual assessor than the actual process would it not?

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

  treequip said:

Is this first hand information or hear say??

 

If its the latter this thread should end here untill you have FACTS

 

thats a fair comment, I shall document all the cases with details and take this discussion to the place it should have been taken

[treequip]

  Tony Croft aka hamadryad said:

Do I have permission to give names and dates locations?

 

Not for me to give permision but if you werent there its just gossip

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

If you have recently passed or tried to gain NPTC certificates for chainsaw operations and would like to tell me about your experience please email me treewisperer@hotmail.co.uk

 

if you wanna be off record thats fine, but would like to hear at least from a few who would be happy to be on the record.

 

I am particularly looking to hear from new/young lads taking their first steps into the industry via NPTC certifications.

[Gollum]

This is a very poor situation.

 

Assessment requirements

 

The height of the final anchor point must be suitable for the operation and must be at least 12 metres. It is expected that it will normally be higher

AERIAL RESCUE

The casualty is secured in the tree or on a ‘pole’ (standing stem) at least five metres from the ground

 

If you have firm evidence this needs reporting to NPTC,

 

Tree climbing assessments should follow the rope access example,

Pass your climbing assessment then after one years experience 1000 hrs recorded, then be able to do the AERIAL RESCUE

[Grass hopper]

When I did the CS39 , there was lad climbing beside me , at one point he was NOT roped in at all and the assessor seen him , told him to come down and sent him home on the spot , he probable saved that guy's life.

[sean]

  Gollum said:

This is a very poor situation.

 

Assessment requirements

 

The height of the final anchor point must be suitable for the operation and must be at least 12 metres.

 

If you have firm evidence this needs reporting to NPTC,

 

 

in your opening post Tony you said 12ft.....the person telling it didnt get mixed up and it was 12mtrs perhaps?