Stacked vs bagged

[treedweller]

As it say's really, we have been forced to have a rethink on the firewood front due to moving of yards and the lack of space for erecting polytunnels etc We are thinking of just retailing kiln dried hardwood. I've found a UK suplier of UK sourced hardwood selling it stacked in 2m3 crates as per the eastern block stuff. I does mean we would be able to sell tractor and splitter,saw bench etc.

But this all depends on how much you can get out of a crate in bags. People quote 3 cm3 bags from 2 m3 stackeddoes anyone have supporting evidence ie have done it them selves??

 

Cheers Guys

[Hodge]

I was thinking of doing the same. I have bought a crate of 2m3 stacked and will be putting it into builders dumpy bags so I can be 100% sure what it splits down to.

[delabodge]

be interested in the out come!!please post your findings, and wholesale cost of the incoming crates!

[Woodworks]

I did a test on this a while back and I think you multiply your stacked quantity by 1.2 for your loose quantity but this varies with log size. With mini logs (6" ish small diameter) it makes very little difference but as the size goes up the more air gaps you get when loose. I did the test on average 10" logs. This was all measured from a stack to an IBC crate.If putting in bags very hard to say as there so many bag sizes and in recent thread members were saying how bags hold more than they expected because they bulge. I think the thread was stop giving your logs away.

 

Hope this helps.

[tothby1]

Be careful of just supplying kiln dried as i have both on offer at the moment and had customers turn it down as it burns to quick and only want normal seasoned stuff.

[treedweller]

You really can't win lol I do feel that in the past ten years the job has changed so much!! My parent have been in this business for about 25yrs and when i was a teen we used to deliver 2 different sized loads, pickup back full or tipping trailer on the back of the tractor. The logs could have been cut from trees felled that day!! It was upto the customer to season their firewood without a doubt. These days it seams like firewood is a mainstream consumer product. It wouldn't suprise me if you'll be able to order a cube of firewood from tesco whilst doing your shopping soon. I fully understand that their are industry standards these days but of late the amount of awkward customers i've come across has increased and i'm not being funny but most of them are new stove owners that are a little ignorant. One example a gent who expected to be able to put a split log straight ontop of kindling, then phoned me back and told me my wood is no good "IT JUST WONT BURN".

The other thing i'm sure everyone is aware of is the fact that relative humidity is in the 80% region with temps not getting over 10* It's hard to get the wood to a standard.

[s.varty]

logburners look nice and comfy,warm,etc in the brochures , but a lot of people buying them have never lit a bonfire let alone a logburner, theyve been bought up with gas/electric heating. "your logs are no good cos there not kiln dried" and thats what theye been told by the man in the shop where they bought their logburner

[treedweller]

logburners look nice and comfy,warm,etc in the brochures , but a lot of people buying them have never lit a bonfire let alone a logburner, theyve been bought up with gas/electric heating. "your logs are no good cos there not kiln dried" and thats what theye been told by the man in the shop where they bought their logburner

 

Agreed!! which makes me think cashing in on the ignorant selling a product for a premium might be a good idea in the short term. £140 a cube seems to be the going rate for kiln dried. I was thinking of selling in three sizes, .25 barrow bag @£35 .5 80x80x80 dumpy for £65 and 1cm3 for £125.

People are still getting their heads around volume and bags up this way and i know there is only one chap selling 1cm3 bags most are .5's sold as builders or bulk bags.

The way i see it the price of the product has gone up but the overheads are coming down so it's all relative just with less graft involved.

[Alycidon]

Customers are becoming more educated thanks tro the web and the better quality stove shops who do the whole job, advise, educate, sell the stove, sell the fuel.

 

Personally I think this is a good thing and am working myself toward achieving recognised quality standards of quality, Hetas.woodsure or the Biomas energy center who knows which one to go for at present. My logs achieve the standard but I dont have enough volume at present to make such registration viable but I am putting the paper trail into place.

 

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