Price for thinning work ?

[Charlieh]

you say its low impact, whats the extraction like, is any of the route surfaced or on rides, whats the distance to stacking area, what is deemed low impact is it alpine and small trailer or larger kit on big tyres, if your pricing for the extraction these details are all critical to giving an indicative price, the felling shouldnt be to bad to calculate costs for but the extraction is where a bit more thought will be required as this is where the biggest losses can be made by miss quoting

[openboater]

Points well made and taken on board here.

I'll clarify as many of the grey areas as I can and then come back with a clearer picture.

Many thanks so far.

We've got a lot to learn so it's great to get your input:thumbup::thumbup:

[slack ma girdle]

70 trees does seem a bit ambitious. In an average stand of 12 inch trees here, I'd expect to drop about 40, averaging 3 maybe 3.5 trees to the tonne, resulting in about 12-13 tonnes a day. That is felled, snedded, cut to 3.5m and stacked as far as possible, brash cleared away from product.

 

Seventy trees is for felling and snedding out, and left full lengh to be skidded or winched out whole.

 

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[Big J]

Seventy trees is for felling and snedding out, and left full lengh to be skidded or winched out whole.

 

That is fair enough. Would make sense - I remember when we first started on the estate before they had the Alstor extraction sorted, everything was skidded out and 90 trees was my PB for a day in that size of stand. That was going like a nutcase on a 9 1/2 hr day though. The innocence of youth!

[openspaceman]

That is fair enough. Would make sense - I remember when we first started on the estate before they had the Alstor extraction sorted, everything was skidded out and 90 trees was my PB for a day in that size of stand. That was going like a nutcase on a 9 1/2 hr day though. The innocence of youth!

 

That takes me back, the best I ever counted was 154 pine trees, average 0.05m3 and 14 live whorls, now that's only about 5 tonne. Extracted later by hydratongs and cut into 1m newsprint loaded by hand.

 

A bit later I was extracting on a clear fell and the ganger, Reg, who was 54 and an old man to my late 20s eyes, was doing 100+ larch and douglas the same age as him, little snedding needed and he was topping at 5". I was pulling 8 at a time, tip first, with the 1124 wheels in the air steering on the brakes, bought a dozer blade during the job to keep them on the ground. About 50 tonne/day.

 

I pass the replanted site regularly, 30+ years on and never thinned.

 

Prices were high and the main contractor had paid £30/m3 standing and sold to a sawmill way up north.

[Chris Sheppard]

That takes me back, the best I ever counted was 154 pine trees, average 0.05m3 and 14 live whorls, now that's only about 5 tonne. Extracted later by hydratongs and cut into 1m newsprint loaded by hand.

 

A bit later I was extracting on a clear fell and the ganger, Reg, who was 54 and an old man to my late 20s eyes, was doing 100+ larch and douglas the same age as him, little snedding needed and he was topping at 5". I was pulling 8 at a time, tip first, with the 1124 wheels in the air steering on the brakes, bought a dozer blade during the job to keep them on the ground. About 50 tonne/day.

 

I pass the replanted site regularly, 30+ years on and never thinned.

 

Prices were high and the main contractor had paid £30/m3 standing and sold to a sawmill way up north.

 

154 is good going

 

1m Newsprint - There was an estate round us still cutting that as little as 8-10 years ago. Never encountered anywhere else doing it so don't know if it was always as big diameter as they did but I didn't fancy shoving it through the peeler all day and hand stacking like they did.