Not the right knot

[WorcsWuss]

Yes, it sounds like he was about to clip into the loop that the slipped tie-off made.

 

I use a double bowline - thats just with a double loop at the start of the knot instead of one.

An instructor at college said that with a double BL I wouldn't need to tie a stopper knot. I still do tho.

 

Presumably that's also called a 'water bowline'...?

Water Bowline - Knots Guide | Arbtalk.co.uk

[andymar]

Fishermans definitely...

[Wolfie]

Presumably that's also called a 'water bowline'...?

Water Bowline - Knots Guide | Arbtalk.co.uk

 

Hadn't see that one on the knot guide. Slightly different to how i tie i in that the second loop is reversed. I'll try that out next climb.

[Arran Turner]

Yes, it sounds like he was about to clip into the loop that the slipped tie-off made.

 

I use a double bowline - thats just with a double loop at the start of the knot instead of one.

An instructor at college said that with a double BL I wouldn't need to tie a stopper knot. I still do tho.

 

thats what i thought, i steer clear of the yosemite for that exact reason. looks a little tidier as a knot but bad skills if the tail that is tucked away becomes untucked and you clip into it

 

Arran

[Pete Mctree]

I always use a bowline, I find it quicker to tie than a Fisherman's .

 

Race you

[WorcsWuss]

Race you

 

It's on...!

 

Back of the bike sheds after school....

[browncow]

I climbed on a bowline for years and years. Always used to do a half hitch with the tail on the loop of the bowline as a stopper. I like the fishermans these days but both work just fine.

[T14EES T14UNK]

I used to just use a spliced eye but since getting a spiderjack I didn't want a splice so that I can swap and change easily if I want. I therefore started using a fishermans which I think is best. But for when I'm having a quick climb up to anchor point I use a Yosemite so that I can fling the rope over and if the rope slides I don't lose the rope through the spiderjack and I can quickly clip in. When at final anchor point I stick rope through rope guide and tie a fishermans.

I have been thinking about asking here for a while now about the safety of using a Yosemite without a figure 8. I make sure it's well nipped up and I've got enough experience to know not to clip in to the wrong bit. I've also NEVER known a bowline to come undone on its own so thought the Yosemite has even less chance. Or so I thought!!

[redmoosefaction]

I always send the tail back up through the first loop where the line comes into the knot, this has never come undone and it keeps the tail out of the karabiners.

 

I did have a couple of issues with the knot undoing itself if I didn't stop knot it.

 

I can post a picture if people want.

[T14EES T14UNK]

I always send the tail back up through the first loop where the line comes into the knot, this has never come undone and it keeps the tail out of the karabiners.

 

I did have a couple of issues with the knot undoing itself if I didn't stop knot it.

 

I can post a picture if people want.

 

Do you mean a Yosemite or is this something different.