Would THIS offend you?

[bob]

hopfully pete wi post a pic of it in full bloom next yr ,

 

hopefully not:biggrin:

[Albedo]

Unfortunately...in ten to 15 years there will be large limbs growing off rotten stumps.

 

Good repeat business .. but I wouldn't wanna be the climber.

[David Humphries]

Unfortunately...in ten to 15 years there will be large limbs growing off rotten stumps.

 

Good repeat business .. but I wouldn't wanna be the climber.

 

 

 

Spec it in for 5 to 7 years instead perhaps.

 

Even beter buisness.

 

 

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[felixthelogchopper]

It's a mullard:001_smile:

 

[Andy Collins]

I think Josh has hit the nail on the head. Text book Arb is the ideal to aim for at all times, real tree work is about doing the work to earn the money to pay the bills. Sometimes the text book has to be left on the shelf and a realistic approach has to be taken.

Slightly off topic, but I was talking to an old climber the other day, he subs to a very large national company doing a variety of large sites, he had pruned trees back to the branch collar where necessary. His site foreman chased him up at the end of the day and asked hm to flush off all his cuts "properly" cos thTs how they like them done! But theyre the boss, they pay the bills, so their way is the way if you want the job and future work. Or do you get out your Blue book, stand your ground and have a row with the foreman? Not get any more work, no income etc etc. Morals don't pay the bills every time.

[18 stoner]

Yes OK and if I am honest...I do too! But the avoidance of contact with the retained stem was not made clear in previous posts.

It still does not excuse the choice of management (IMO).

 

Ok, just to clarify, as Steve said the spiking was not done on the retained part of the tree. Actully spiking it could have caused regeneration IMO, but in this case the tree is a TPO, so the approval stated the tree was not to be spiked.

 

On the "management" issue, why get so hung up about species criteria? It was the client who specifically wanted the tree retained.

 

Had a go myself today, I do try to move with the times and stuff.

 

What do you reckon

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:lol:

 

hopfully pete wi post a pic of it in full bloom next yr ,

 

Will do Johnny, regardless of the outcome.

 

Unfortunately...in ten to 15 years there will be large limbs growing off rotten stumps.

 

Good repeat business .. but I wouldn't wanna be the climber.

 

Very true Paul, and these issues were discussed at length with client prior to works. They are more than happy for the long term management of the tree to be a reality. Their main priority is to try and keep the tree.

[18 stoner]

I think Josh has hit the nail on the head. Text book Arb is the ideal to aim for at all times, real tree work is about doing the work to earn the money to pay the bills. Sometimes the text book has to be left on the shelf and a realistic approach has to be taken.

Slightly off topic, but I was talking to an old climber the other day, he subs to a very large national company doing a variety of large sites, he had pruned trees back to the branch collar where necessary. His site foreman chased him up at the end of the day and asked hm to flush off all his cuts "properly" cos thTs how they like them done! But theyre the boss, they pay the bills, so their way is the way if you want the job and future work. Or do you get out your Blue book, stand your ground and have a row with the foreman? Not get any more work, no income etc etc. Morals don't pay the bills every time.

 

Very well put Andy:thumbup1:

[Albedo]

I think I can live with that 18 stoner. I have clocked you to be an intelligent poster over the years regardless of your location:001_smile:

 

 

I wondered why you posted this monstrosity.. but could see it could not be made that much smaller in any pretty way.

 

Just don't book me to reduce it in 20 years time....I'll be 72 and still climbing:001_smile:

 

Edit: Excellent cone and sign work by the way

[kieran connell]

yep! looks like it was done for a reason other than just bad pruning.

[Canal Navvy]

Doesn't offend me.

 

A well reasoned response to a difficult problem, I hope that the hotel staff can pass on the reasoning. I wonder if an explanation sheet for the interested visitor should be done.

 

Had it not had a TPO would you have spiked it in the hope of encouraging new growth?