Heating Oil in a chipper?

[roseyweb]

As has been mentioned, putting it in a hire machine is a pretty nasty thing to do. Do me a favour, post your company name up so - can warn my dealers not to hire to you5

 

Pfffft get over your self

 

Cheers for the advice everyone else not so keen in putting it in MY kit now

[Old WoodChip]

I had a new ford galaxy about 10 years ago, a friend had the same one a week before mine. Both cars the turbo failed at under 800 miles? both were well looked after & both replaced under warrentee. Just a duff batch of turbo's said the men at ford.

[twistedhicap]

Right kerosene is 28 second oil this is its viscosity rating diesel/gas oil usld is 35 second viscosity the lubericating sulphur is missing from most nowadays as EU law dictates it the problem using 28sec Kerosene in a diesel engine is that it burns at a faster rate therefore puts out more heat this heat is the killer to a diesel engine its possible by the use of an additive oil such as two stroke or engine oil or even veg oil to reduce the temperature of the burn. Diesel or 32sec gasoil is all the same nowadays as from jan 2010 all gasoil/ diesel / red diesel supplied for use in machinery has to be ULSD (ultra lo sulphur Diesel) the reduction of sulphur is for pollution reduction and due to the fitment od such devices as Cataltic convertors SCR catalysts and DPFs (diesel particulate filters) to modern engines in order to meet stringent Euro emmisions regs at type approval any of the above can be harmed by using incorrect fuel !

 

The introduction of the USLD has caused an increase in machinery fuel pump issues and injector issues due to the reduces lubricating qualitys of the fuel base stock old engines liked this inbuilt lubrication they will and do show wear from its removal.

 

Diesel and kerosene are two different products distlilled at different temperatures in the refining tower at a refinery there is no adding of oil to kerosene to produce diesel.

 

all pump fuel and now Red diesel/gas oil has to meet the same BS standard the difference between say a supermarket fuel and the premium brand fuel is the additve package which is added to the fuel when the fuel is distributed the supermarkets tend to have the least additives and the premiums the most this is why the premium fuels tend to be more pricey.

 

Customs and excise duty on fuels is a very complex area i heard the other day that canal boats can no longer use red legally due to tax issues and it has been in discussion for many years about the use of red diesel in high speed tractors such as Mogs and fast tracs that spend most of there time on the road ? its the governmebts way of trying to squeaze all the money they can out of us just for trying to earn a living !

 

Personally i have seen engines killed by running on kerosene and others that have run fine but I personaly wouldnt do it.

 

Heating boilers using gas oil instead of kerosene as said you should change the jets and up the pump pressure slightly to compensate for the thicker viscosity of the gas oil but it works but as gas oil tends to be more expensive than kerosene nowadays is it worth it unless your buying in gas oil in bulk for machinery ?

Edited October 16, 2012 by twistedhicap
left some info out

[JeremySmithers@EricHunter]

Pfffft get over your self

 

Cheers for the advice everyone else not so keen in putting it in MY kit now

 

You say in your reply that you won`t use kerosene in YOUR kit. You still think it`s a good idea to put in other peoples machines then?

 

Good luck borrowing a chipper when you need one!

[geoff]

Pfffft get over your self

 

Cheers for the advice everyone else not so keen in putting it in MY kit now

 

Thats a pathetic snipe there:thumbdown:

 

In fact I am surprised at your atitude throughout over this,am I the only one who thinks you could pull your socks up here?

Edited October 21, 2012 by geoff
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[JeremySmithers@EricHunter]

Look, heating oil, as has been extensively discussed, is not suitable for use in diesel engines. If you put it in it`ll very likely damage the engine and that won`t be cheap to fix. Overheating, lack of lubricants etc.

 

Anyone who does that with their own machine is the master of their own destiny and good luck to them.

 

If you think it`s either acceptable or worse, amusing, to use the heating oil in someone elses machine then that`s wrong in my book.

 

Stop defending the idiocy of it.

[gensetsteve]

We used to hire large silent generators to everyone in the 90's . Often the fuel tanks would come back half full of water so they saved themselves £40 in gas oil Now due to the expensive common rail fuel systems we have to be very choosey who we hire to. No events, no building sites. We generally only hire to blue chip companies who require standby power and we supply the fuel. Contamination in a large common rail fuel system and your talking 3-4 k in parts alone. The more it happens the harder it will be in future to hire kit in. You reap what you sow.