Beginners guide to rigging.......

[Albedo]

Design a horse by committee and you get a camel:001_smile:

[Grass hopper]

Adam , I was sure you were going to take the day off work to finish this thread, keep up the good work.

Need people like you on here, it help's people like me , I've done only a hand full of rigging jobs , all went well thank God.

[Adam Bourne]

I personally find the book rather repetetive and could probably give you the same info in half as many chapters, this thread could end up much better then the book as it will have insight from hundreds of arborists not just 2.

 

in My reply to the post's made by stephen, and skyhuck i have highlighted this post by dartmoor!. firstly because i never got a chance to reply to it and secondly it pretty much sums up what learning people is about,

take a knot for example the more you tie dress and set the knot the easier it becomes to do and the most important thing is you remember is you learnt the knot through being repetitive.

Huck, in your post you mentioned that to learn something new you need the very basic principles of what your doing and most importantly why.

well my answer to that is how basic can you get by showing what i class as basic rigging gear. we've discussed the basic's of ropes and what kind of ropes to use, and the very basic's of simple hardware such as a figure of 8. how i planned this thread in my head is exactly how i was taught. introducing the basic gear for a start will help later in the thread so when i gets to the tutorial photos i have know need to baffle on about, what this is what that is, just plain and simple how its done.

 

Huck, i know you better than that now mate, posting on this forum and reading other peoples post's has taught me one think never assume how anyone is talking to you as everyone's post can be read out of text. i see know harm in your post and i think i've replied the best i can.

 

Stephen i agree with you mate, there is a lot to rigging that helps everything run smoothly, position of hardware, ropes. communication is key and yes cuts are a real key to making it work right.

 

To everyone else who has posted giving support thank you:thumbup:

 

i never intended to start this thread and after a day be done with it taking time about it allows us to have conversations and debates like this, rome was not built in a day! you have to look back on the history of tree work rigging and how far its progressed the thread will take ages if not years to complete and there will always be something new to add so for all you pro's out there please bare with me i know you must feel frustrated at how i have gone about it but all will come good. i promise.

 

Thanks. Adam

[Le Sanglier]

Not frustrated, just a bit bewildered, no offence but can you get on with it please! pulleys...check, ropes....check. let's go! smiley face.

[Rupe]

I agree with huck, that it is your thread so go for it. Please note that my last post was at 3 miutes to midnight on the last night of a five night bank holiday!! (I gave it a rest on the sunday night)

 

I also agree with Stevie about the cuts, and I would add that its all about the cuts AND the groundie. The kit inbetween is the least relevant of all.

 

Someone asked me recently if he should buy a GRCS so he could hire himself out with it as a more expensive freelance climber. We chatted about the benefits of the GRCS for a while, but on reflection my advice should have been, if you buy a GRCS you should then hire yourself out as a more expensive groundie.

 

Groundies do the rigging, the climbers just do the cutting, and I think we get too involved in how good various climbers are, or how good they will be with various bits of kit, but its the groundies and the climbers together that make a good rigging job, not the kit.

[Adam Bourne]

 

Groundies do the rigging, the climbers just do the cutting, and I think we get too involved in how good various climbers are, or how good they will be with various bits of kit, but its the groundies and the climbers together that make a good rigging job, not the kit.

 

This i 100% agree with all day long mate....

 

 

this thread will be designed and built on all our knowledge combined together, i'm not intending to do this solo although it does feel like it at the minute! having good and lots of equipment is not necessary! sure some of johny's blue poly prop rope will do but its not about that its about setting standards and as a professional i will try and keep the bar high so others have a better chance at understanding and utilising what they have in front of them.

 

i have a little girl to deal with when i get in as alex mostly works the late shifts to keep the pennys coming in i work most days and like all that do this job knows how hard a day can be.

being self employed does not mean i can just come home and switch of so the thread will progress once i get a chance.

[Rupe]

I'll help if and when you need it.

[Adam Bourne]

I'll help if and when you need it.

 

 

Thanks mate.....

[RobArb]

Great thread Adam, and without sounding too hippyish:lol:, when rigging pieces of especially in tricky situations, you need to be able to "feel" the wood, the properties, the grain etc and "feel" what its gonna do... Whether to do a slew back cut or a fast one and stuff like that!

 

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