Beginners guide to rigging.......

[edwood]

ahh youve already answered it all, my bad, cheers guys!

[Adam Bourne]

Rigging Hitches and knots......

 

 

I'm quite surprised that nobody has mentioned this yet but thought i would do a small piece on it and it will be very small.

 

As arbtalk has its own knot guide and steve has put a lot of time and effort into the new arb aps i thought it would only be fair to add these 2 links for all the people who have not yet been introduced to them.

 

the arb apps are available on iphone and android phones and seeing them in action myself are well worth the money.....

 

the knot guide is a little behind on the rigging hitches but don't waste your time waiting for them as steve is very busy and are not on his to do list for a while yet....so don't be tight and buy the app.....

 

http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum/news/42824-brand-new-arboristapps-now-available.html

 

Arbtalk.co.uk | Discussion Forum for Arborists Knots Guide

[Arbocop]

Greetings all

 

a long thread , and prehaps the first of a few posts as I come accross things... sorry if i repeat my self but typing as i go

 

 

1. 'Buy the book' actually buy the books, the ISA, the NAA UKHSE hell even pete bridgemans old book. all info helps, but the book wont tell you everything..

 

2 'or just for ease? in my 12 years climbing theres one thing i've learnt while practising rigging and that is it makes for a very safe controlled work environment and in some case's quicker than just crashing everything to the floor.'... umm i don't necessesarilly agree with this statement, the second part yes, a slick rigging set up well run will indeed make the whole job run quicker, but because of the many variables and issues it can cause current wisdom for tree safety/stability is when you can free fall material.

 

3. not really rigging but please tell me that power line was switched off...

 

4. 'My next post after this will show pictures of basic kit to complex kit used in the rigging world'... I think the next bit should look at weather the tree is safe to rig or weather you should fell in one use a crane free fall. primary Risk assessment if you liek, sussing out and planning the job if you dont like RA...

 

5 now on to who should do the work, as is already clear from replies people we all have a differant ability level, for many resons, sending a c team person to do an a team job will end in tears, but send a b team person to be mentored by an a team will end in staff develpoment... Match the person to the job..

 

 

so now we have decided the tree is safe to rig, got an outline plan of how the job will be done and matched the people to the job, time to liase with the team and plan what gear we need

 

oooo goody the gear bit i love this part so ill start a new thread.....

[bob]

Bob that sound's quite a scary moment, did the groundies walk away from the rigging line? as i've already stated Communication.

 

nope but they were way of to the side.

which again highlights the need for discussion on where the groundies should stand in case either the rope fails or the anchor or just a simple mistake.

Always plan for the worst

[Adam Bourne]

Greetings all

 

a long thread , and prehaps the first of a few posts as I come accross things... sorry if i repeat my self but typing as i go

 

 

1. 'Buy the book' actually buy the books, the ISA, the NAA UKHSE hell even pete bridgemans old book. all info helps, but the book wont tell you everything..

 

2 'or just for ease? in my 12 years climbing theres one thing i've learnt while practising rigging and that is it makes for a very safe controlled work environment and in some case's quicker than just crashing everything to the floor.'... umm i don't necessesarilly agree with this statement, the second part yes, a slick rigging set up well run will indeed make the whole job run quicker, but because of the many variables and issues it can cause current wisdom for tree safety/stability is when you can free fall material.

 

3. not really rigging but please tell me that power line was switched off...

 

yes it was mate i'm sure i already said it was but i'll check!

 

4. 'My next post after this will show pictures of basic kit to complex kit used in the rigging world'... I think the next bit should look at weather the tree is safe to rig or weather you should fell in one use a crane free fall. primary Risk assessment if you liek, sussing out and planning the job if you dont like RA...

Its a guide to rigging, so that question should of already been answered, i'm not going to get into things like assessing the tree that way, the thread is being developed to lern people how to rig not if they need to?

 

5 now on to who should do the work, as is already clear from replies people we all have a differant ability level, for many resons, sending a c team person to do an a team job will end in tears, but send a b team person to be mentored by an a team will end in staff develpoment... Match the person to the job..

 

Nicely put....

 

 

so now we have decided the tree is safe to rig, got an outline plan of how the job will be done and matched the people to the job, time to liase with the team and plan what gear we need

 

oooo goody the gear bit i love this part so ill start a new thread.....

 

 

Thanks for the reply and your welcome to scrutinize it all....

Edited June 9, 2012 by Adam Bourne

[Stephen Blair]

I can't do knots, I know a reaf and a timber hitch, sometimes I can remember a bowline.

Eyes and slings for me

Oh and never wrap a rope round your arm!!

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I can't do knots, I know a reaf and a timber hitch, sometimes I can remember a bowline.

Eyes and slings for me

Oh and never wrap a rope round your arm!!

 

ha ha ha knot just me then! I still cant tie a running bowline! I guess it right sometimes 50%!

 

Spliced eyes are stronger anyway:thumbup1:

[MOG]

Great post Adam.

 

These's are just some of the top ten tips i teach, when i am showing/training someone.

 

( not in order as such)

 

1. Gloves

2. knots and hitches tie properly if unsure retie or get shown

3. Know your limits, gear and your groundies i.e experience......

4. Proper gear for the job in hand!

5. Know where the piece is going/ direction of swing etc

6. stand well away for area if possible/escape plan

7. What is the worst case scenario i.e piece coming back towards you, house, groundie etc etc.

8. Wear the Job is (location) (location) Location!

9. First Aid kit/ Phones etc

10. Some body able to (rescue) you. i use this term lightly as most of the jobs i do, unfortaley this is not possible. too all you contract climbers out there you Know. back to the point of knowing your limits and crews.....

 

i think if you/team can achieve 90%ish of that list you are doing very well, and is a good basic guide.

 

Cheers Mog

[WorcsWuss]

2-1

 

Is it My bad, I thought Ddrt was 2-1....

 

Ref flying capstans and buying cheap poly rope, avoid, too much heat for poly... Poly rope is OK for pulling stuff and natural rigging...

[Adam Bourne]

Is it My bad, I thought Ddrt was 2-1....

 

Ref flying capstans and buying cheap poly rope, avoid, too much heat for poly... Poly rope is OK for pulling stuff and natural rigging...

 

 

Your right simon it is a 3:1 you count the legs at the moving blocks and i count 3...