This has got to be a bargain buy

[skyhuck]

I'd say it was much older than '83 but could be wrong:sneaky2:

 

Its on an age related plate, I think Y is 83.

 

The Q plates tend to be much older than the year first registered in the UK.

[18 stoner]

Yeh, I get you Dave, but like Steve says was it made in '83, or first registered in '83?

[skyhuck]

Yeh, I get you Dave, but like Steve says was it made in '83, or first registered in '83?

 

You can't get an age related plate thats younger than the vehicle.

 

Even private plates can't mate the motor appear younger than it actually is.

[niftysteve]

It looks like its on drum brakes, if it is its not something I would want.

 

would have thought being an 83 its on discs as is my mog which is an 82

[18 stoner]

You can't get an age related plate thats younger than the vehicle.

 

Even private plates can't mate the motor appear younger than it actually is.

 

Yep, with you now:thumbup1:

 

Think the thing that threw me was Ive read on logbooks if a vehicle was "new at first registration". Just assumed they maybe all aren't

[skyhuck]

would have thought being an 83 its on discs as is my mog which is an 82

 

I'm pretty sure you could have disc's or drums at one time, I don't think its particularly an age thing, but I could be wrong, the hubs on that look like drums to me, but the pictures not great and as I say I could be wrong

[tree monkey]

it seems to have pto`s just short of a tipper body on it,tyres look good too.

[gensetsteve]

You can't get an age related plate thats younger than the vehicle.

 

Even private plates can't mate the motor appear younger than it actually is.

 

over about 20 years ago they did not worry about age relating I think thats a recent thing. That mog looks late 60's to me

[skyhuck]

over about 20 years ago they did not worry about age relating I think thats a recent thing. That mog looks late 60's to me

 

What about it makes you think its so old????

 

(I'm pretty sure age related plates have always been strictly controlled)

[b101uk]

Q plates and strict controls on age related plates go back to before the 70’s, however it’s not unheard of vehicles being 2 to 5 years older than their first registration suggests, as manufactures and importers have a concession which mean a vehicle is technically not aging between when it rolls off the production line and when it is first registered with its “certificate of newness” when you buy it, though it is somewhat less common now given the modal year changes and propensity for almost yearly facelifts with cars, though with lorry’s it’s still more likely as there are less modal year changes and facelifts.

 

As for disk vs. drum brakes,

 

I believe it was 1976 that disks braked axles became an option and late 1978/early 1979 that disks became standard and drum brakes disappeared off the production line, which also coincides with the year exports to Case USA who sold the 406 over there as the Case MB4/94 & with excavating equipment mounted on to the US military as the S.E.E (Small Emplacement Excavator) all got disk brakes.

 

So it’s not imposable for 1983 first registration as “new” to have been sat around in a compound somewhere in the UK since just before the production line change to disk brakes only in late 1978/early 1979 given the historic low sales volume of new mogs in the UK.