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Give with one hand, take with the other.

 

I smoke (rolling tobacco) and earn under 30k PA. In short, I'm out of pocket. I'll bust my gut during the day, but I'm not asking for more, just stupidly hoping that the government starts taxing those with money to burn rather than those that don't.

 

More and more I sympathise with those who lean towards cash in hand work. After all, it's the lady that sleeps in your bed, not David Cammerface.

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I think it's quite right that the government should raise duty on fags and booze. I don't smoke but I like a glass of wine or 12 of an evening. These things cost the NHS zillions of quid a year so it's only fair that those of us who indulge in them help to foot the bill.

 

It has been pretty much proved that the 50p tax rate actually costs the UK money. It should have been scrapped altogether instead of a compromise to 45p. I find it staggering that anyone would like to see a high tax rate in place which nobody pays just on principle, even if it doesn't work.

 

At the end of the day, the personal allowance has risen significantly and will rise by even more in 12 months time. This has to be good news for most people, especially Labour's 'ordinary hard working families' which is a phrase they can't seem to help repeating 500 times in every interview.

 

I think it was a good budget all in. Positive and focussed. Far better than the popularity politics, economic recklessness and dishonesty of our previous government.

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I think it's quite right that the government should raise duty on fags and booze. I don't smoke but I like a glass of wine or 12 of an evening. These things cost the NHS zillions of quid a year so it's only fair that those of us who indulge in them help to foot the bill.

 

I smoke and pay National Insurance, so how the hell they think they can further subsidise the NHS from ciggy duty too is beyond me. If they want more for the NHS, then raise NI.

 

Also, I occasionally drink, not excessively, and nowhere near to the point that it would endanger my organs. So why am I now being penalised? The fact is that government are terrible at spending and keeping account of our money, and believe they can continue to exploit us (the all giving cash cow) to foot the bill of their mistakes.

 

Also, an increase in financial pressure = an increase in drinkers to wash away their woes. So if the government want to reduce the NHS bill, then how about making improvements to peoples lives in this country, rather than driving people to drink after they've been royally shafted e.g. inheritance tax and 20% VAT increase. There are psychological aspects that don't get much press, when they really should because over 50% of NHS admissions are due to drink (so my insider tells me.)

 

If wage increases matched inflation, then I might not feel so bitter. But as things stand, I'm tired of paying these corrupt crooks more and more after every budget, because quite frankly, they can't be trusted to manage our affairs (based on recent events anyway.)

 

It's time to kick Brown's bottom with a steel toed boot and never look back, brothers :biggrin:

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I'm not of the opinion that we should look to the state to take care of us because, as you say, they are corrupt and terrible at it.

 

What we need, as I'm sure you will agree, is a much smaller state.

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I smoke and pay National Insurance, so how the hell they think they can further subsidise the NHS from ciggy duty too is beyond me. If they want more for the NHS, then raise NI.

 

Also, I occasionally drink, not excessively, and nowhere near to the point that it would endanger my organs. So why am I now being penalised? The fact is that government are terrible at spending and keeping account of our money, and believe they can continue to exploit us (the all giving cash cow) to foot the bill of their mistakes.

 

Also, an increase in financial pressure = an increase in drinkers to wash away their woes. So if the government want to reduce the NHS bill, then how about making improvements to peoples lives in this country, rather than driving people to drink after they've been royally shafted e.g. inheritance tax and 20% VAT increase. There are psychological aspects that don't get much press, when they really should because over 50% of NHS admissions are due to drink (so my insider tells me.)

 

If wage increases matched inflation, then I might not feel so bitter. But as things stand, I'm tired of paying these corrupt crooks more and more after every budget, because quite frankly, they can't be trusted to manage our affairs (based on recent events anyway.)

 

It's time to kick Brown's bottom with a steel toed boot and never look back, brothers :biggrin:

 

Smoking is just as bad as drinking, yet you smoke every day but don't drink:)

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I think I should be compensated for the amount I have to drink to make up for the fact that I don't smoke. It's disgusting. Somebody rich should pay me money in some way.

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