climber wage

[benedmonds]

Those are the first (i think) realistic figures given in this thread Tom for what our jobs worth imo.

 

The job is worth what a customer is willing to pay.

 

These are back of fag packet calculations but..

It cost me last year roughly about £300 a day BEFORE wages to run our 5 guys.

 

Therefore each guy has to earn £60 plus his wages and some profit would be nice...

 

Assuming a 3 man team:

Climber £175 second climber £150, groundie £100, the £180 costs, about 15% profit £90..

 

You would need a £695 day rate, every day.

 

Not realistic around here I am afraid...

[Ian C]

The job is worth what a customer is willing to pay.

 

These are back of fag packet calculations but..

It cost me last year roughly about £300 a day BEFORE wages to run our 5 guys.

 

Therefore each guy has to earn £60 plus his wages and some profit would be nice...

 

Assuming a 3 man team:

Climber £175 second climber £150, groundie £100, the £180 costs, about 15% profit £90..

 

You would need a £695 day rate, every day.

 

Not realistic around here I am afraid...

 

Nor round here either.

 

What makes a climber worth 200 a day? Or a groundie 100? Just wondering dont get me wrong I think tree work is v under valued but that will never change because most people don't give two hoots about trees.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Joe Newton]

The job is worth what a customer is willing to pay.

 

 

 

These are back of fag packet calculations but..

 

It cost me last year roughly about £300 a day BEFORE wages to run our 5 guys.

 

 

 

Therefore each guy has to earn £60 plus his wages and some profit would be nice...

 

 

 

Assuming a 3 man team:

 

Climber £175 second climber £150, groundie £100, the £180 costs, about 15% profit £90..

 

 

 

You would need a £695 day rate, every day.

 

 

 

Not realistic around here I am afraid...

 

 

Can you explain how it was costing you that? They should be making you money, not costing you!

 

 

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[benedmonds]

Can you explain how it was costing you that? They should be making you money, not costing you!

 

Add up everything you spend in the year, advertising, insurance, tools, training, fuel etc etc... divide by the numbers of work days in the year and you have a daily cost...

[Mr_D]

This is by no means a dig at anyone, but I would genuinely like to see what a £200 a day climber looks like in the tree and doing the job, I have worked with some, in my opinion, great climbers, guys iv looked at and thought I'm not even close to there standard and there only just about getting away with 150 a day.

 

Thing is, and this is just in my experience, people don't want to pay that for a climber, iv had a guy drop me (£100 a day) and use someone else (£60 a day) because he was cheaper, that's was the only reason...he had less experience ect ect but the lad didn't want to spend the money

[Joe Newton]

But that's not completely the staff costing you. Evens one man band has overheads. Do the same for costs relevant to staff (insurance, training, ppe) and it should be significantly less.

 

FWIW the higher rates mentioned here would be for self employed. Employed rates will always be less, for good reason.

 

 

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[Mr_D]

But that's not completely the staff costing you. Evens one man band has overheads. Do the same for costs relevant to staff (insurance, training, ppe) and it should be significantly less.

 

FWIW the higher rates mentioned here would be for self employed. Employed rates will always be less, for good reason.

 

 

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Yea sorry my example is for self employed rate

[Joe Newton]

I guessed that mate. I don't know of any employed climber round here on £120. Maybe London, but living costs are relative.

 

My point was with Ben, he can't pay an employed climber a high figure due to the amount he already invests in them. A self employed climber gets a higher wage but covers these costs himself.

 

 

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[Joe Newton]

Yea sorry my example is for self employed rate

 

 

Didn't see your previous posts. Good point, some people only see figures.

 

I've made £200 in a day before, but that was for me

 

 

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[Mr_D]

That's cool mate.

 

Yea I have done the same mate but don't know any lads that are contracted in and payed £200, I know a guy who is brought in at £220 a day but he provides he's truck and chipper in that cost aswell