Chainsaw accidents

[skyhuck]

Preposterous

 

Big word, for a Sunday teatime!!!

[Log-ologist]

I cut my left hand up a tree with a 200T about 10 years ago.

 

pulled the saw out of an awkward one hand reaching cut. Passed rotating (decellerating, no throttle )chain over back of left hand. lots of blood. lots of stitches.

 

Wearing a LH glove would have prevented this. I now wear chainsaw gloves in the tree when I think a lot of cut abnd chuck is gonna happen.

[Khriss]

Bit shocked at all this- for the last few years have heard so many / seen so many injuries from ( esp Tophandled) from chainsaws- Basically if we were soldiers and presented a 40% Shot self / shot comrade rate -what do you think would happen ?

 

K

[John Hancock]

By saying they like 2 gossip did you mean chat a lot of bull***t?

Some of the most dagerous and detrimental roumors

i come across in this industry are started/ presented as fact thanks to some bloody NPTC assessor!

I hasten to add, however, that not all assessors are so stupid.

If it is or ever was true that silky's were banned at Kew I'd love 2 have a stern words with the bloke who came up with yet anouther Preposterous knee-jerk reaction of an idea.

 

 

 

No, I mean gossip. I have never met a 'stupid' assessor and I don’t think I ever will.

 

If a company, council or garden like Kew had a sudden influx of accidents with handsaws then the correct thing to do would be to stop using them until a full investigation and risk assessment has taken place. Factors like training, PPE and indeed complacency can all be taken into account and control measures put into place.

[Ian150482]

Never had one, and hope i never do.I have had a log crush my finger though and rip my nail off since it got trapped between the log and the steel bit on ifor williams trailer, that hurt big time. The lad who helped me pick it up drop it before i had the chance to let go. OUCH!

[Mesterh]

Only 84 voters!!

 

280 members alone visited today, come on peeps it aint that hard to check a couple of boxes.

[treequip]

Bit shocked at all this- for the last few years have heard so many / seen so many injuries from ( esp Tophandled) from chainsaws- Basically if we were soldiers and presented a 40% Shot self / shot comrade rate -what do you think would happen ?

 

K

 

I don’t know where you get the 40% from but basing any opinion on the results of a straw poll in an internet forum can’t serve as a statistically accurate model.

 

Similarly your experience of accidents can’t be used to make an accurate model. Accidents and near misses are memorable occurrences. You notice them but the safe jobs are unmemorable.

 

The other flawed area is exposure to risk. Your average arborist is around or operating saws for several hours per day. Your average squadie doesn’t have the same exposure to bullets.

[Mesterh]

Bit shocked at all this- for the last few years have heard so many / seen so many injuries from ( esp Tophandled) from chainsaws- Basically if we were soldiers and presented a 40% Shot self / shot comrade rate -what do you think would happen ?

 

K

 

It already happens ask the yanks

[Khriss]

It already happens ask the yanks

 

Ohhhhh Yes !

 

Anyway- my 40% injury is from ( at the time ) 60% of respondants had not had a hit -therefore 40% had. As our industry is so small -this is huge. Most of the feedback I've had is that it occurs tophandled/one hand cutting -cut n hold. Or Falling with rearhandled, whilst cutting. I have a problem with the system with this- many companies are actively setting out systems that will lumber you with all the liability for an injury on yourself. If our hit rate is so high- you can be truely f kd in the wrong company. Never mind the painful reabilitation.

 

K

[treequip]

Ohhhhh Yes !

 

Anyway- my 40% injury is from ( at the time ) 60% of respondants had not had a hit -therefore 40% had. As our industry is so small -this is huge. Most of the feedback I've had is that it occurs tophandled/one hand cutting -cut n hold. Or Falling with rearhandled, whilst cutting. I have a problem with the system with this- many companies are actively setting out systems that will lumber you with all the liability for an injury on yourself. If our hit rate is so high- you can be truely f kd in the wrong company. Never mind the painful reabilitation.

 

K

 

Like I said your model is flawed.

Firstly it’s statistically limited, very limited. Then you have drawn your sample from a forum that probably has a large bias towards climbers.

It certainly can’t be described as assessed as balanced.

Then we have the sampling interval, 2 days is hardly a reasonable opportunity for people to respond.

You can draw conclusions if you like but what you have here is a straw poll of this forum. I wouldn’t take it as a guide to the industry as a whole.

It’s not legally possible for an employer to set up a system of work that will “lumber you with all the liability for an injury on yourself”.

 

Andy