Silver Birch topping!

[Mr Ed]

What, two grunts and an illegable word. I've heard better arguments from my dog.

 

Ed, You use as few a words as possible to get straight to the point. I've come to expect that from you.

 

I should have replied with just "Whatever" to counter

 

 

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its all cool dean. I have them pissing themselves in the peanut gallery

[perci]

I'll give you a clue.

 

It drops leaves in my gutter.

It shades my new conservatory.

Can you just chop it in half.

It leaves a right mess on my drive when the leaves fall.

I'm scared it's roots are under my house.

 

It's our job to educate them not agree with them

 

Its not our job to educate. It's our job to proide a professional service.Which means,i agree, telling them about thier trees. Personally its rare that i deal with clients with a 500 year old oak near the conservatory; Its usually birch, poplar, ceder,which the client want topped,and i end up felling on the conditon that i will be planting a smaller growing tree,e.g paper bark maple,futher away.everyones happy,and there's a new tree on the block!!

[Amelanchier]

When you are asked to quote for work you are taken into the clients confidence, the only reason your mate knew those trees were to be felled was because the client told him, he then used that information to the detriment of the client, very unprofessional, IMO.

If the trees were of importance they should have already been TPO'd!!

 

On the flip side, its very professional in my book. The right thing was done for the sustainability of the trees.

 

We tend to need a threat to justify a TPO (not always but usually) and its good to get calls from contractors telling us about important unprotected trees that are under the gun.

 

Now as a business strategy, its probably not a good idea to do it ever week, but in my experience, the companies or individuals that call us to warn us are the more professional established type that consider themselves to have a role in managing and shaping the landscape.

 

Not having a pop, just giving you the other side.

[Andy Collins]

One example, a nice oak tree nearby to myself, prominent and in good order. The threat is that a new resident at the property is going to cut a driveway to his house, I informed TO of his intentions, will not impose a TPO as there is no IMMEDIATE threat to the tree. The driveway will remove the majority of the structural roots on one side of the tree. Now my understanding of the matter is that if they apply to put in drive, and its passed, even a TPO would not protect the tree. The tree itself is a habitat for owls and bats, aside from any other facts. The attitude is basically "wait and see and it will be dealt with if and when an application is processed". Now if the resident just cuts the driveway, then applies for retrospective planning, the damage will be done, and there is nowt that can be done. On this occasion, it seems the laws are weak.

[Amelanchier]

One example, a nice oak tree nearby to myself, prominent and in good order. The threat is that a new resident at the property is going to cut a driveway to his house, I informed TO of his intentions, will not impose a TPO as there is no IMMEDIATE threat to the tree. The driveway will remove the majority of the structural roots on one side of the tree. Now my understanding of the matter is that if they apply to put in drive, and its passed, even a TPO would not protect the tree. The tree itself is a habitat for owls and bats, aside from any other facts. The attitude is basically "wait and see and it will be dealt with if and when an application is processed". Now if the resident just cuts the driveway, then applies for retrospective planning, the damage will be done, and there is nowt that can be done. On this occasion, it seems the laws are weak.

 

Hmmm. Sounds a bit fatalist to me. It all depend on the structure of the planning department at your LPA. Are the tree guys/gals embedded in with the planners where they have good leverage or are they tucked away in a dungeon somewhere. Does the LPA even have any!!!! Hypothetically speaking, we would prefer to TPO your oak, let the planning permission come in and make a forceful case to move/refuse the drive because of the impact on a protected tree. Full planning permission overrides a TPO but the tree is a material consideration. The result of this approach is that if the homeowner cut his driveway hoping for retrospective permission, he would have committed an offence.

[Log-ologist]

...And as for calling the council about the pines, that is very unproffesional behaviour.

 

 

yeah well i've done that too. several times actually.

( usually cos the new owners are wnkrs and should have bought a house away from trees in the first place.)

 

call me a snitch , i don't care.

[Dean Lofthouse]

( usually cos the new owners are wnkrs and should have bought a house away from trees in the first place.)

 

 

My sentiments exactly.

[Xerxses]

Entirely in his court, if he wanted to go down that road then there's nothing you can do, but at least (I feel) we did the right thing. Better than felling the trees just because the guy wanted to look at a field rather than a row of trees, (his garden was massive, no reason at all to fell them APART from the fact he didn't like trees. I'm no tree hugger, and I do understand some trees NEED to be felled for various reasons, but this job was not for one of those reasons.

Good on ya!

Trees ARE Good!

If WE dont look after their best, who will?

[Xerxses]

Looks like topping to me; although I do not know the reasoning for the work, as I have not read the thread.

 

Have not read the thread either...but THAT is hideous Topping! Should have been felled in my opinion.

Fullstop.

[Xerxses]

Mr ed and deano you made my night pissing myself haha.

 

Sounds like everyones been having a right old bitch fest.

 

We are just human guys we make bad choices and good ones.

 

You cant please everyone all the time and you cant cut trees the best way all the time.

 

As for putting a tpo on a customers tree without there permission thats just bang out of order if they ever found out your company name would get dragged rightly through the mud.

 

:001_tongue:

 

I can not disagree more.

If we had the legislation over here I would have TPOd so many trees in my days...in order to treat the tree to a proper managment...riskmanagement etc