Tree vs wall?

[Paul Barton]

I should add that I do not know for sure that the trees have been poisoned by anyone - that was my best guess.

 

Good point about the TPO staying Tony.

 

I have recently found a number of TO's trying it on with TPO facts. I recently did a pre-development report for the siting of a new house close to a TPO'd Oak tree, with car parking under the canopy (I didn't approve of the scheme but I still have to write the report!).

 

The scheme was refused partly because it was noted that the crown would need ongoing management in order to avoid debris falling on the car. Apparently schemes that require ongoing work to TPO'd trees are unacceptable? Although I agreed that the design was pretty crap, I didn't understand this as a sound rebuttal. Surely many TPO'd trees require ongoing maintenance. And if the TO wanted, they could give consent for cyclical maintenance works...

[Amelanchier]

That does sound a bit dubious - are they insinuating that if the TPO wasn't in place normal management would be acceptable? Duh! Perhaps they have half read section 6.3.3 of 5837? Blah blah blah trees should not be retained where the development requires that their branch spread must be significantly controlled by periodic pruning???

 

The most annoying thing about a refusal like that is that whilst the arb might be champing at the bit to destroy the shoddy psuedo-reasoning of the LPA, the client hardly ever wants the fight. They only get away with talking toss because people let them.

[Mesterh]

Am I the only one that thinks if the trees have caused the damage then the owner of the trees should be paying for the repair?

 

It will no doubt cost more to repair and strengthen the wall to accommodate the trees than to just repair it after the trees have gone.

 

Why should the owner of the wall have to get involved in all that cost?

[Stephen Blair]

Fell the trees against the wall, instant props. 2 birds with 1 stone. Simples

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Tony S and Paul, one thing TO's detest is giving pruning consent, they dont like trees cut, unless they are their own street trees then anything goes!

 

thats an outrageous generalisation, but there is always an element of truth, even in jest.

[wisewood]

Killing the trees is completely the wrong way to go about it and I sure as hec don't condone that action. Not knowing the entire hsitory of the tree/wall battle it's hard to comment too much further but suffice to say that there are surely other ways around the issue? The council could surely have looked at other possibilites rather than a flat out no and, the owner could surely have gotten a couple of independant reports and advice on what to do. Armed with this an amicable compromise may have been reached. Some councils though do need to get off their perch as do a lot of the general public.

 

Apologies for veering off subject but I've noticed a sycy along my local footpath that has been "ringed". (not sure of the correct term- but trunk has been severed with a chainsaw about an inch deep all the around.

The path and all trees are maintained by the council and I'm assuming they wouldn't have done it, so I guess it was some cheeky fecker who has light and leaf fall issues.

[Stephen Blair]

Youch!!!!

[David Goss]

Apologies for veering off subject but I've noticed a sycy along my local footpath that has been "ringed". (not sure of the correct term- but trunk has been severed with a chainsaw about an inch deep all the around.

The path and all trees are maintained by the council and I'm assuming they wouldn't have done it, so I guess it was some cheeky fecker who has light and leaf fall issues.

 

dorty barsteward! lets hope its the one closest to the tree and it gets left to die, rot and fall on his dumb ass head:thumbdown:

[RobRainford]

Why can't he repair the wall?

 

All it would take is a bit of ingenuity and a willingness to create "cut outs"

 

the technical term is hole in the wall

 

 

something like these which i pass every day!

[janey]

the technical term is hole in the wall

 

 

something like these which i pass every day!

 

Haha, yes, that's what I was refering to. I didn't realise there was such an uncomplicated, non technical name for something that a lot of people in tree / planning confrontations don't seem to know exist.

 

I have to say though, that I much prefere the other type of hole in the wall: put plastic in, get paper out, buy shiny new stuff