Have the HSE finally seen sense on chainsaw trousers

[tokaloch]

Call me sad if you want, but I was browsing the HSE web site looking for some info on vibration when as usual you get side tracked and follow threads to other places. I found this very interestig document. Read page 7 about Chainsaw, Its very interesting, Does this now mean we can all climb in this type of trouser ?

 

http://www.hse.gov.uk/aboutus/meetings/iacs/aiac/afag/190407/minutes12.pdf

[Log-ologist]

For those who hate reading too much skip to section B6.

 

You can wear shorts up a tree if you write a good risk assessment promoting the virtues of such a procedure.

[skyhuck]

Remember that most of the HSE stuff is "guidance", although some seem to speak of it is as"law".

 

And refer to things such as "chainsaw licenses"

[tokaloch]

Sure I know its guidance but in the past many HSE officers have enforced type C, It now looks like they are taking notice of reality. Just out of interest, has anyone here ever heard of a climber cutting his leg at the back above the knee ??

[Log-ologist]

In 20 years only two people I know or have heard of who have have cut their legs with a chainsaw including one which needed lots of sewing.

 

Both were wearing chainsaw trousers at the time!

 

I know of people who don't wear chainsaw protection and they take great care to use the saw without endangering their legs.

 

Many european , american and aussie cutters use no PPE trousers, in theory they should be all dead or maimed from horrific chainsaw accidents but they are not.

[skyhuck]

Sure I know its guidance but in the past many HSE officers have enforced type C,

 

How do they "enforce" this, please give an example.

[Mesterh]

Nice find that

 

Gerald Bonner was one of my old lectures at college:001_smile:

 

Hopefully someone from the HSE actually put a pair of type c's on and did a bit of treework to find out how restrictive and hot they are. (yeah right )

[treewizard]

ive only ever heard of one person getting cut where there was no chainsaw protection and that was on the buttock but theres no protection there anyway, i agree type c`s are to hot but nice in winter

[Arborlord]

I would always wear type c even if you dont have to im used to them and although they may not fully stop a saw you will more than likely keep the leg you hit.

 

No protection no leg left.

 

The only thing that bugs me is the nptc hse shite if i wanna train a boy they need cs30-31-38-39 WTF

 

Why cant we train people ourselfs then after 3 years put them into the courses that way the sods wont leave as soon as you pay for the quals.

[Pete Mctree]

Surley the point of risk assesments etc are to assess risk and develop a strategy to effectivley reduce and manage it. For instance on a prune or dismantle I wear type A trousers, however i often wear type C's when working in hedges and have the risk assesments accordingly.

In my eye's it's the managment of risk that is the critical issue