what Idiot designs this stuff

[greengrafter]

Sorry ...... bit of a rant here!!

 

I thought the whole point of redesigning something was to make it better.

 

To put it in short I've been using a cp15 napsack sprayer that I pinched off my dad years ago, its not the most comfortable sprayer but its ok.

 

I bought myself a cp3 the latest cooper peglar spayer, so I was told last year and never really got on with it and found myself using the older one.It bounces around the van because its a stupid shape and is a general pain in the......

 

It was meant to be ergonomically better than the older model.

 

I've just used it and my shoulders are killin and I'm well grumpy now!!!

 

My question is if you redesign something surely its meant to be better than the model it replaces???

 

Rant over

[Ian Clarke]

its meant to be but designers are not end users

[RobRainford]

Redesigning something may include lowering manufacturing costs and build quality.

 

I've always found knapsacks to be getting worse as you bought newer ones. We've got some older than 5 years and have always been fine. Some new ones have broke within weeks.

[greengrafter]

its meant to be but designers are not end users

 

More testing for the end user me thinks is required

[greengrafter]

Redesigning something may include lowering manufacturing costs and build quality.

 

I've always found knapsacks to be getting worse as you bought newer ones. We've got some older than 5 years and have always been fine. Some new ones have broke within weeks.

 

I would'nt of minded if I had of paid peanuts for it, but it cost me over 100 quid. I thought at the time if I spend a fair bit its bound to be good. I wont make that mistake again!!

[Gareth Dalzell]

Sorry ...... bit of a rant here!!

 

I thought the whole point of redesigning something was to make it better.

 

To put it in short I've been using a cp15 napsack sprayer that I pinched off my dad years ago, its not the most comfortable sprayer but its ok.

 

I bought myself a cp3 the latest cooper peglar spayer, so I was told last year and never really got on with it and found myself using the older one.It bounces around the van because its a stupid shape and is a general pain in the......

 

It was meant to be ergonomically better than the older model.

 

I've just used it and my shoulders are killin and I'm well grumpy now!!!

 

My question is if you redesign something surely its meant to be better than the model it replaces???

 

Rant over

 

Are you talking about the CP3 2000 series - the tall thin based pump on top thingy. Cause I didn't realise there was any difference between a Classic CP3 and Classic CP15 appart from one being 20litre and the later being 15litre. So you'd be carrying an extra 5kg each time - that might be why your shoulders are hurting

 

If it is the CP3 Series 2000 one you are talking about they are a pain to keep upright, but again they are 20 litre sprayers so heavier.

[Frankie Lawrence]

for the sake of your back and overall sanity get yourself one of these. Not much in difference price wise to cooper peglers and a HELL of a lot more comfortable. If your going to be using it alot its well worth it. You can also get battery powerd versions to save your arms.

 

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[Gareth Dalzell]

Meant to say, you can still by the Classic CP15 - as far I know they are still in production:thumbup:

[Len Brennan]

Cooper Pegler sparayers are a bit like Land Rover Defenders, you get the feeling that the people responsible for designing them have never actually used one for more than about two minutes.

[greengrafter]

Are you talking about the CP3 2000 series - the tall thin based pump on top thingy. Cause I didn't realise there was any difference between a Classic CP3 and Classic CP15 appart from one being 20litre and the later being 15litre. So you'd be carrying an extra 5kg each time - that might be why your shoulders are hurting

 

If it is the CP3 Series 2000 one you are talking about they are a pain to keep upright, but again they are 20 litre sprayers so heavier.

 

Yeah It's the tall skinny one!! I've just looked at the cp15 on internet.That's tall and skinny too:confused1:

 

Dad's one is definately a cp 15 it must an older model as it's probably over 20 years old.