chin strap

[treequip]

So all in all still getting no where

 

So having exhausted those avenues where do you think you should go next?

[Tom2020]

Haven't got a clue treequip

[treequip]

Hmmmmn

 

Who would be the best people to advise the college on the HSE’s recommendations?

[Tree Man Tom]

Sorry for the late replay

 

Been in to college and spoke to the head of the college said about the helmets and even showed him this thread His replay was its up to the tutor on what they think is safe

 

So getting no where with him

 

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An nptc person came in to do a cs38 with some of the lads..All passed

 

I asked him are the helmets where safe.

 

His replay was down to the college i will go back and ask them what is going on

 

Might get some where with him.

 

The only requirment was that the helmets needed to have a chain strap and they would be safe to climb in so any helmet is safe to climb in to him

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Went in and spoke to my tutor about it all.

 

His replay was.

The course has no more funding so no new ppe and no 1 will go in for anything now till next year

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So all in all still getting no where

 

As much as i admire your effort in bringing the helmet issues to the attention of necesery people, i wouldnt let it bother you to much I know i wouldnt

[penfold]

if you're concerned about your helmet being "illegal", then the only solution really is to go buy yourself a proper climbing helmet and keep your husky balance or stihl peltor helmets for groundwork.

[Tom2020]

if you're concerned about your helmet being "illegal", then the only solution really is to go buy yourself a proper climbing helmet and keep your husky balance or stihl peltor helmets for groundwork.

 

Thats what im doing just need to save up now...

[Tom2020]

As much as i admire your effort in bringing the helmet issues to the attention of necesery people, i wouldnt let it bother you to much I know i wouldnt

 

Its just get on my boobs that Its a college and they are always saying to us HSE is men't to be top. When they carnt even do it them self's you could argue the point all day and they still wont budge just have to what to see the nptc person says anything to college about it

 

I dont think the nptc can do anything but if they have them breathing down there backs then hopefully they will take note before HSE gets hard on them

[Andy Collins]

I can see where Tom is coming from. However, how much of your time is aerial, compared to training on the ground? Weighing this up, are the husky style helmets not a reasonably practicable alternative for students? I'm not saying they are right and you are wrong Tom, and I think its great that you are on the ball enough to bring this to their attention.

Does anyone know of current practice at the other colleges?

If I understand the posts correctly, had the college only recently bought the stock of helmets in, just prior to the latest HSE advisory, in which case would they not be deemed fit for purpose at the time of purpose, and upon expiry of their working life should be replaced with helmets meeting up-to-date regs?

By Tom purchasing his own climbing helmet, yes he protects himself better, but by bringing the attention of the helmet issue up, he is actively trying to protect all the students.

[Tom2020]

I can see where Tom is coming from. However, how much of your time is aerial, compared to training on the ground?

 

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About 90% for the next month then it will be all ground based

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Weighing this up, are the husky style helmets not a reasonably practicable alternative for students?

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In the trees the helmet its bulky gets in the way and if you tilt your head to far to 2 side it slides off no matter how much you tighten it.The visor sticks out like anything and wraps around the rope every now and again

 

So to me they feel unsafe

 

On the ground there not a problem

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I'm not saying they are right and you are wrong Tom, and I think its great that you are on the ball enough to bring this to their attention.

Does anyone know of current practice at the other colleges?

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Not sure there

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If I understand the posts correctly, had the college only recently bought the stock of helmets in,just prior to the latest HSE advisory, in which case would they not be deemed fit for purpose at the time of purpose, and upon expiry of their working life should be replaced with helmets meeting up-to-date regs?

 

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The helmets are 3-4 years old now and as the course funding has ran out there will be no new ppe till early next year

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just prior to the latest HSE advisory, in which case would they not be deemed fit for purpose at the time of purpose, and upon expiry of their working life should be replaced with helmets meeting up-to-date regs?

 

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By Tom purchasing his own climbing helmet, yes he protects himself better, but by bringing the attention of the helmet issue up,

 

I would look better in a petzl helmet i think and they would do the job of looking after my 1 little brain cell

 

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he is actively trying to protect all the students.

 

1 day you may need your mate there to help you out so you look after him Hope to god he catches you when you fall

 

 

 

 

I think that's what you mean All this for a chain strap :thumbup: