My 1st attempt with a drift

[redmoosefaction]

isn't it more natural for a oak tree to have those big rips in them? If you see them when they occur naturally they don't really sucker up that much... thoughts please

[gibbon]

Just set it up as Steve shows in the product review. I used windows movie maker 2.6 as it has a speed up and slow down option too.

 

"isn't it more natural for a oak tree to have those big rips in them? If you see them when they occur naturally they don't really sucker up that much... thoughts please"

 

Not really clear what you mean there? Are you saying Oaks do or don't fail like that? This tree has a fair bit of epicormic growth lower down but was mostly dead for the last 3-5m. If you need to remove all the dead/dying branches back to cuts of that sort of diameter then I think a rip looks more natural than a flat chainsaw cut.

[David Humphries]

Morning Matt,

 

have you found in practice that you have more 'control' (sic) with a perpendicular starter cut than a more acute angled cut?

 

Do you create any habitat niches with plunge cuts, if not, is this due to the type/age of trees your working already ticking that box?

 

 

 

I think it's prundence to see balance put in to a thread like this in terms of health & safety, but I believe as you, that experience offers the practitioner the choice of work position & heirarchy of options based upon the tree, the conditions & the site.

 

Also believe that due to the nature of the style of cutting, complacency is assessed & tackled more accutely than when cutting the same routine cuts repetatively in normal work specs & conditions.

(see various threads on chainsaw injuries)

 

 

 

 

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[gibbon]

Morning Matt,

 

have you found in practice that you have more 'control' (sic) with a perpendicular starter cut than a more acute angled cut?

 

Do you create any habitat niches with plunge cuts, if not, is this due to the type/age of trees your working already ticking that box?

 

 

 

I think it's prundence to see balance put in to a thread like this in terms of health & safety, but I believe as you, that experience offers the practitioner the choice of work position & heirarchy of options based upon the tree, the conditions & the site.

 

Also believe that due to the nature of the style of cutting, complacency is assessed & tackled more accutely than when cutting the same routine cuts repetatively in normal work specs & conditions.

(see various threads on chainsaw injuries)

 

 

 

 

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Thanks for coming out of hiding Dave. I usually try to angle my starter cut at the angle which is least likely to be seen from the ground, (I hope that makes sense to you) which will very often be perpendicular. This reduces the amount of "slash" cutting needed to hide the flat chainsaw cut. Perhaps the perpendicular cuts help to lengthen the fracture, but I haven't really had an ideal opportunity to compare this yet.

 

We do tend to bore in and create cavities on some jobs, but normally when the tree is being left as a monolith. For LA work where we are working these cuts into a given spec for a reduction I wouldn't feel comfortable inflicting additional damage by boring into stems. On some of the estates and the odd private client we do have a wider scope for this though.

 

 

More often these days we do this on trees that we hope will continue to live and the cuts are really a tool in trying to disguise a heavy reduction as much as possible. My theory is that if the tree is in decline and is unlikely/unable to occlude the wounds we are creating then why target prune?

[scotspine1]

gibbon and monkey d,

 

Coronet cuts are not 'arboricultural' cuts because they're not done in the best interest of the tree.

 

True?

[Tree Man Tom]

gibbon and monkey d,

 

Coronet cuts are not 'arboricultural' cuts because they're not done in the best interest of the tree.

 

True?

 

Not wanting to stick my nose in...

 

But a coronet cut on a tree that is in decline, could potentially stimulate more growth from the cut and there for introduce more energy and what not into the tree through photosynthesis. Giving it a new lease of life, potentially..

[David Humphries]

gibbon and monkey d,

 

Coronet cuts are not 'arboricultural' cuts because they're not done in the best interest of the tree.

 

True?

 

 

 

Not sure anyone has ever said that these techniques are 'specifically' in the best interests of the Tree.

 

Biodiversity-Habitat-Aesthetics-Replicating nature, are some of the overiding goals.

 

 

 

 

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[gibbon]

I think non intervention is best for the tree in most cases. If I had decided to go for a more traditional reduction with this tree a lot more material would have been removed. By working to a different spec we were able to prune back to small areas of epicormic growth on most of the limbs.

 

I think in this case coronet cutting was in the best interest of the tree. Hopefully what we acheived was a minimal amount of material being removed whilst retaining a natural look to the tree complete with dead wood, all be it at a reduced level. The other option would have been hat stand or fell.

[MasterBlaster]

Everytime I see that type of cutting I'm amazed. You'd be run outta town on a rail, here. Plus, you wouldn't get paid.

[mistahbenn]

Everytime I see that type of cutting I'm amazed. You'd be run outta town on a rail, here. Plus, you wouldn't get paid.

 

I dont get it either Butch.