Hamas big reduction/pruning thread!

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

thats what i thought dave, but how much strength has been lost and how much more growth would be permitted(textbook) before reducing again:001_smile:

 

Looking at that tree and its occlusion of the pruning wounds it would have grown perfectly normaly with no unatural stress points.

 

no set period for matty's tree to re prune.

[skyhuck]

thats what i thought dave, but how much strength has been lost and how much more growth would be permitted(textbook) before reducing again:001_smile:

 

Very little IMO, its "topped" trees that have the weak attachment and large wounds that struggle to seal and compartmentalize.

 

On a "proper" reduction you cut back to a branch of at least 1/3 the size of the branch removed, so not much fast weak regrowth.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

thats what i thought dave, but how much strength has been lost and how much more growth would be permitted(textbook) before reducing again:001_smile:

 

I would also add that these cyclical reductions do need carefull consideration in repatative prunes and cycle, too much working too often depletes the trees resources and results in poor vitality, leaving it more prone to pathogenic fungi like armillaria and other stresses.

 

I would be VERY cautious on oaks which seem to suffer more in this way than most others, beech too, i would leave it 5 years in an ideal world after a 30% reduction.

 

and maples particulary Acer Platanoides "crimson king" which if pruned too late in the growing season are highly susceptable to nectria cinnabarina on the new growth that didnt get time to harden off before winter.

[Stephen Blair]

Very little IMO, its "topped" trees that have the weak attachment and large wounds that struggle to seal and compartmentalize.

 

On a "proper" reduction you cut back to a branch of at least 1/3 the size of the branch removed, so not much fast weak regrowth.

 

cheers dave.

so whats this target pruning malarky then:confused1:

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

cheers dave.

so whats this target pruning malarky then:confused1:

 

Natural Target Pruning

[MattyF]

thats what i thought dave, but how much strength has been lost and how much more growth would be permitted(textbook) before reducing again:001_smile:

 

I would of reduced very lightlly for aesthetics... you know maybe just lightly thinned out some of the reactional regrowth and pruned the rest with felco's.... maybe in many years if left to continually grow the old wounds maybe will cause problems but that is years away and that tree would of all ways been in consistant managment though because of its proximity to hazards around it and most importantly to the client the leaves it put in his pool...wich is why it was sadly removed:thumbdown:

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I would of reduced very lightlly for aesthetics... you know maybe just lightly thinned out some of the reactional regrowth and pruned the rest with felco's.... maybe in many years if left to continually grow the old wounds maybe will cause problems but that is years away and that tree would of all ways been in consistant managment though because of its proximity to hazards around it and most importantly to the client the leaves it put in his pool...wich is why it was sadly removed:thumbdown:

 

Its such a shame that leaf fall is one of the major gripes with trees, they give us so much more but all THEY see is the negatives the mess, hazards, light blah blah.

 

What gets my back up more than anything though is the middle classes, they started off in the towns and done well in business, they opt to move to the suburbs to a leafy idylic spot, then 12 months after moving in are caling a tree surgeon to defoliate the leafy suburbs!

 

If YOU dont like trees, MOVE away, or stay in town!

[MattyF]

Too right, 6-7 years ago most of are work was in letchworth garden city,it amazed me the amount of people who complained about there trees and wanted them felled but luckily they are all pretty much protected by covenants ,tpos and the garden city hertitage foundataion say in planning aps makes removing any tree very difficult, but it used to make me laugh,i mean if you dont like trees why the hell did you move to a garden city!

[Mark Bolam]

I would of reduced very lightlly for aesthetics... you know maybe just lightly thinned out some of the reactional regrowth and pruned the rest with felco's.... maybe in many years if left to continually grow the old wounds maybe will cause problems but that is years away and that tree would of all ways been in consistant managment though because of its proximity to hazards around it and most importantly to the client the leaves it put in his pool...wich is why it was sadly removed:thumbdown:

 

What are these Matty? And will they run a 36" bar OK?

[MattyF]

yeah they should be fine with a 36"on mark...complete thread derail but im running some coronas at the momment,i gotta say though,they are the worse secateurs i have brought no substitute for felcos!