Rigging krab idea.

[AHPP]

Meanwhile Commodore Dempsey’s hasty hawsers hold fast. Double braid is for your boyfriend’s thick, black hair.

[Joe Newton]

Not me, another Joe. 

 

Decent of them to apologise though. 

[kram]

1 hour ago, Joe Newton said:

Well if their recent splicing cock-ups are anything to go by, it's the equivalent of phoning me for sex advice. 

 

Fancy hidden lock stitching for a low profile eye, perhaps a bad design decision and huge QC failure.

 

Mistakes happen, most climbing companies have had a recall or two. Petzl have had many...

 

Marlow Ropes issues urgent update over stitched splicing in one product

WWW.FORESTRYJOURNAL.CO.UK

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Responding to recent speculation on social media about a possible fault with this, the manufacturer has reiterated that no other ropes in its range…

 

3 hours ago, AHPP said:

Sure. Rigging ropes though. You (probably) wouldn’t be able to poke them through rings. 
 

How does it feel having Marlow back up your hunch? 

 

It means the spliced ring I did last week is far from ideal, but I note that DB spliced rings are available to buy with the same rope. Anyway will only use for small stuff.

Stein give the same splice rating with the ring and without so perhaps the difference is small..

OMEGA-16 Spliced Sling with Friction Ring Insert

WWW.FLETCHERSTEWART.COM

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OMEGA-16 Multi-Sling - 5.0m - 50cm Spliced Eye

 

Edited 18 hours ago by kram

[Dan Maynard]

Long loop on a dead eye which is cow hitched pushes the splice back behind the first knot and so lowers the loading both shock and otherwise, maybe that's what people mean?

[AHPP]

The Amazing Invisible @Rich Rule

 

 

[kram]

We all agree on that, does anyone cow hitch their 50m rigging line?

 

You could attach a pulley to the eye and rig off a loop with the tail of the cow hitch, is perhaps the only use I can think for that. Not very common, I imagine?

For that you wouldnt need or want the half hitch over the eye, so it becomes just a girth hitch.

[Rich Rule]

4 hours ago, AHPP said:

The Amazing Invisible @Rich Rule

 

 

Alex, wtf are you on about?

 

Or are you implying I am invisible because I don’t respond within a couple of hours?

 

News flash I was at work.  😛

[Rich Rule]

3 hours ago, kram said:

We all agree on that, does anyone cow hitch their 50m rigging line?

 

You could attach a pulley to the eye and rig off a loop with the tail of the cow hitch, is perhaps the only use I can think for that. Not very common, I imagine?

For that you wouldnt need or want the half hitch over the eye, so it becomes just a girth hitch.

I don’t think many people cow hitch their rigging line.

 

But a lot of people do just clip the bina back onto the line.  If the eye is larger the bury of the splice would be outside of the connection and not add stress or bend the throat of the splice.

 

Interesting what Marlow came back with.  Did they provide any break testing data?

 

As I mentioned earlier the information I received from Nod, I am sure I asked the guy who splices for HB as well back in the day.  I used to buy rigging lines without splices and put one in myself.  That way you can make them whatever size you want.

 

On a 16 or 19mm rigging line the throat of the double braid splice will be quite long.  Using a rope that size and strength could mean you are rigging decent sized chunks.  If something like having a large diameter eye reduces the risk of the throat being bent around timber and thus reducing it,

 

Surely that is a good thing?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mick Dempsey]

1 hour ago, Rich Rule said:

Alex, wtf are you on about?

 

Or are you implying I am invisible because I don’t respond within a couple of hours?

 

News flash I was at work.  😛

I think Alex meant you gave what seemed the correct response a while back but it was not acknowledged. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Mick Dempsey
I speak a smattering of ‘Alex’

[Rich Rule]

Oh ok?  Tired and rough days here in Norway.  Bloody freezing.

 

As for the extra stretch from a big eye.  That’s just what I was informed about 20 years ago when I started splicing.

 

😜