Convince me

[eggsarascal]

Can someone convince me that what's  happening today wasn't predicted years ago?

 

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[BillQ]

Soundbite 1am post, why not assemble an argument instead?

[eggsarascal]

1 hour ago, BillQ said:

Soundbite 1am post, why not assemble an argument instead?

I didn't post for an argument, lets have a look at it fron back in the day. Let me make it blatantly clear, I couldn’t stick this woman but was she wrong about this?

 

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[Haironyourchest]

Everything is predictable a ways off. When the clouds darken we expect rain. The issue is not lack of foresight, it's lack of will to change behavior today. Same principal applies to individuals and the collective.

 

Recent history is replete with great examples of this "sin of sloth". Take the second Trump election. The establishment had all the good evidence their woke direction was leading to failure at the box, but they ran the woke candidate all the same. 

 

Another glaring example is Ukraine. The conclusion was set in stone at the start. All it took was a quick look at the known figures, military capacity, manpower, resources etc and an honest appraisal of the geopolitical alliances. 

 

Yet another example, Covid.

Yet another example, Tories.

Yet another example, Labour.

Yet another example, green energy.

 

 

[Mick Dempsey]

Everything is predictable in hindsight.

[eggsarascal]

Why are we talking about hindsight? Surely the two links I've posted are from years ago, before the current issue with illegal immigrants?

[BillQ]

OK if you don't like or understand "argument " a discussion might be better. 

Put together what you mean rather than soundbites, then no one will come at it from an incorrect assumption on what you mean otherwise we get tangential posts. 

[eggsarascal]

15 minutes ago, BillQ said:

OK if you don't like or understand "argument " a discussion might be better. 

Put together what you mean rather than soundbites, then no one will come at it from an incorrect assumption on what you mean otherwise we get tangential posts. 

Don't talk to me like I'm some sort of cnut, I asked a question, that being, was the current crisis of illegal immigration predicted years ago.

[Steven P]

48 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

Why are we talking about hindsight? Surely the two links I've posted are from years ago, before the current issue with illegal immigrants?

 

I guess that with 60 or 70 years of TV we can pick and chose which clip to focus on and say "look they knew", and likewise there will be many clips that we can pick and chose from to show "look they had no clue".

 

This of course has accelerated with the number of clips and posts on the internet - somewhere someone will be a genius for predictions, but 99% will be seen as idiots.

 

So with hindsight we can be very selective.

 

 

A couple or 3 examples:

Nostradamus the French fortune teller has his verse interpreted after an event with all saying "look he knew"... and a few years later the same verse is looked at in hindsight again and applied to a different event. Same words but different events.

Could also look to politics the 'massive' benefits of Brexit or the doom and gloom of Brexit - one side knew, the other didn't, one side can say "told you so" whichever way the future pans out in the next 5 years, but about half the population will be wrong with the view they had at the time.

The Simpsons! Often after the event hailed as a genius show for the predictions that have happened in reality.

[Peter 1955]

14 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

Don't talk to me like I'm some sort of cnut, I asked a question, that being, was the current crisis of illegal immigration predicted years ago.

Indeed it was, but the problem is that it's a very fine line between realism and warnings of impending problems against being labelled Racist/Xenophobic. 

This country has long been a melting pot of races and religions, and I believe that in the past, immigrants tried to integrate and become members of the wider community. With the greater numbers coming in, and encountering a less tolerant attitude ( coupled with the Professional Complainers being offended on behalf of various nationalities ) I believe it's leading to more and more enclaves of various Ethnic groups being formed. 

There is the danger of what we might call " native " ( blimey, we're a mixture French, Scandinavian, what have you, with a German/Greek Royal Family ) residents being overwhelmed.

Listen to Enoch Powell's speeches, they were warnings, not calls to arms.

Sadly, some of the more ardent and vocal opponents of immigration are not the most shining examples of humanity, shall we say.