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Posted
5 minutes ago, Bob_z_l said:

I've used Gator Oil for chain oil. They do a 2 stroke oil.

I have used similar before but ended up going back to Stihl Ultra out of a (false?) sense of security

 

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Our red mineral engine oil is a high performance, low ash 2-stroke oil. It is specially formulated with the latest additive technology & base oil components to produce a low smoke...

 

 

 

No. Not trustworthy enough. Got to be top end name. OEM or better.

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4 minutes ago, AHPP said:

 

No. Not trustworthy enough. Got to be top end name. OEM or better.

 

 

Understand 100%

Chain oil I'm very happy with, but I have trust issues too over deviating from the oil I know and trust. 

 

Posted
4 hours ago, AHPP said:

I need to get some more two stroke oil. I currently use one of the Stihl green ones, Super or Ultra. As silly as it may sound, I’d like two stroke to be red. It’s how I was brought up. It’s easier to see. Or I’d like it to at least not be green so it’s different to MotoMix (green). Purple might do. 
 

 

That's two of us. For one thing, it's far easier to see at 50:1. When I started using both 2 stroke mix and neat in various machines, I was using red Stihl oil, so I put the mix in red cans, and neat in green. Unfortunately, I was then told that the 4mix Stihl engines needed low ash Super, which is green. I now have green mix in red cans, and neat in green cans. I daren't change over, as I would get mixed up at some point.                               The mate who has started helping me is red/green colour blind, and I have to tell him to use the tall cans for the mowers, and the square ones for all the others. 😕

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Posted
1 hour ago, AHPP said:

I don't trust Oregon anything really. It's a bit supermarket own-brand. I want solid name-brand. McKewans Champion, not Greene King IPA. 

Interesting perception, I trust Oregon because they've always made good chains and bars, for example my dad used type 73 on his Sachs Dolmar - but if you look at their felling wedges, forestry helmets then yes I would agree they are a bit supermarket own brand 

 

I've moved to Motomix for everything, 55 litre drum from Tudor Environmental and a shake/siphon hose is really convenient. No worries about oils, additive, ethanol, shelf life, trips to garage for petrol, etc.

Posted
35 minutes ago, Peter 1955 said:

That's two of us. For one thing, it's far easier to see at 50:1. When I started using both 2 stroke mix and neat in various machines, I was using red Stihl oil, so I put the mix in red cans, and neat in green. Unfortunately, I was then told that the 4mix Stihl engines needed low ash Super, which is green. I now have green mix in red cans, and neat in green cans. I daren't change over, as I would get mixed up at some point.                               The mate who has started helping me is red/green colour blind, and I have to tell him to use the tall cans for the mowers, and the square ones for all the others. 😕

I only mix fuel for myself,I encouraged the rest of the team to do likewise, and never use fuel other than your own,I never lend a saw to anyone else.never cooked  a saw myself, seen a few that other have, usually when somebody else mixed the fuel, I once gave a talk on saw maintenance to a local organisation and out of 30 operators only 12 new how to mix ratios of fuel. 3 of them actually added oil to petrol  til they thought it  "looked about right", and two of them designated the mixing to somebody else in the gang, none of whom had any tickets or been told by anybody who had, as you would give the new guy a broom or get him to make the tea. I asked one guy to mix 5ltrs @50/1 without using a "one shot" and he had no idea how to achieve it .

I later had a years contract with them and ran a gang of 14, the best two chainsaw operators were both girls in their 20,s.

I should add these guys were pretty green and not seasoned old timers with years of experience behind them.

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3 hours ago, Peter 1955 said:

That's two of us. For one thing, it's far easier to see at 50:1. When I started using both 2 stroke mix and neat in various machines, I was using red Stihl oil, so I put the mix in red cans, and neat in green. Unfortunately, I was then told that the 4mix Stihl engines needed low ash Super, which is green. I now have green mix in red cans, and neat in green cans. I daren't change over, as I would get mixed up at some point.                               The mate who has started helping me is red/green colour blind, and I have to tell him to use the tall cans for the mowers, and the square ones for all the others. 😕

 

With other people in the equation, there's simply no way around writing on everything, rigorously enforced.

No abbreviations.

No, "I'll remember."

No, "They'll be able to tell."

No, "It's just for this fill." 

Fuel matches the label or get out immediately. One mistake and you could kill five or ten tools in an afternoon. THOUSANDS OF POUNDS. Very unfunny.

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Posted
46 minutes ago, Dan Maynard said:

Interesting perception, I trust Oregon because they've always made good chains and bars, for example my dad used type 73 on his Sachs Dolmar - but if you look at their felling wedges, forestry helmets then yes I would agree they are a bit supermarket own brand 

 

I've moved to Motomix for everything, 55 litre drum from Tudor Environmental and a shake/siphon hose is really convenient. No worries about oils, additive, ethanol, shelf life, trips to garage for petrol, etc.

 

Not as good as Stihl. Too soft.

 

I use MotoMix for everything except commercial firewood production (yes, I know, don't ask). I can burn 15 litres a day if I'm going for it. That's £25 vs £75. Ten days of that is £500 difference.

Posted (edited)
45 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Everything is neat petrol

till it goes in the combi can. 

 

I think you might have just convinced me to deviate from a decade of resistance and buy a combi can.

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