Leaning walnut

[Dilz]

as for residual risk of the high stem falling over - the client has already been informed about this, but considering the load its carrying now and it hasn't already fallen, the risk of it falling if its cut in half will be drastically reduced for a number of years  and if done so in a way that it won't damage property if it does fall then its not so much of an issue.. 

 

A factor that I have to take into account is that this tree is of extreme sentimental value to the client. It having been planeted by her grandfather on the family farm so she is quite desperate to save something especially as its partner was removed in the winter (and I planked up and is now drying in their barn) 

[AHPP]

16 minutes ago, Tree monkey 1682 said:

Can you not reduce canopy over a succession of years so it doesn't stress tree out and tree will come back ?

 

"Tree care question. Everyone's saying cut it down. Quick. Must look all thoughtful so they look like brutes who can only fell and I look like a super-clever tree whisperer."

 

Moderation for moderation's sake. A competition to do least. A bad decision making process. Might as well be a civil servant. By all means be restrained and nuanced when restraint and nuance is right but be forceful and final when that's right.

[AHPP]

2 hours ago, AHPP said:

If you cut it in half and do a decent job clearing up, no damage etc and it later falls over, you're the guy who left them with a tree that fell over. It's not the whole story but it's the headline that everyone will see.

 

In a kinder world, I might offer to bring it down to something like five feet so that it can be regularly repollarded from the ground. But the world is not kind and I'm not optimistic about changing it today.

[sime42]

I was thinking to cut it at around 7ft, and then install a trendy swing seat from it. That would be rather nice. 

 

 

[openspaceman]

1 hour ago, Dilz said:

A factor that I have to take into account is that this tree is of extreme sentimental value to the client. It having been planeted by her grandfather on the family farm so she is quite desperate to save something especially as its partner was removed in the winter (and I planked up and is now drying in their barn) 

Does it fruit? I grew some walnuts from a garden up the road, a lady I had known for years. Three I took to my brother's remote house in Devon, and planted 8ft apart,  with the instruction to let them grow and select the best one to grow on. As he was brighter than me and top of his field, he ignored me.

 

On his death when clearing the place for sale I noticed 3 nuts on one tree, brought them home and germinated two. One survived in a pot and I planted it out next to my ash dieback experiment tree, it grew to 2m so  winter 23 I planted it in my front garden, it seems to be doing well. I wonder if I will be around to enjoy a nut.

[sime42]

 

11 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

Does it fruit? I grew some walnuts from a garden up the road, a lady I had known for years. Three I took to my brother's remote house in Devon, and planted 8ft apart,  with the instruction to let them grow and select the best one to grow on. As he was brighter than me and top of his field, he ignored me.

 

On his death when clearing the place for sale I noticed 3 nuts on one tree, brought them home and germinated two. One survived in a pot and I planted it out next to my ash dieback experiment tree, it grew to 2m so  winter 23 I planted it in my front garden, it seems to be doing well. I wonder if I will be around to enjoy a nut.

 

I've successfully grown quite a few from seed. One that I gave to my brother is now about 10ft high, only 6 years or so old I think. It's put on a massive growth spurt in the last two years.

 

I think I've heard that they don't start fruiting until they're at least 17 or something, hence why they are often grafted. 

 

 

 

 

[AHPP]

14 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

I planted it out next to my ash dieback experiment tree, it grew to 2m

 

How big was the ash dieback experiment tree? Did you factor juglone toxicity into your experiment? At what age/size of walnut tree does it start happening?

[Muddy42]

Cut it to a height where it won't damage the building, if it dies or doesn't sprout well, cut the rest

[sime42]

Good question. My brother's walnut is in his orchard, amongst a load of fruit trees. We did briefly consider mitigating against the Juglone somehow, (maybe by digging a trench and installing some kind of underground barrier, as it's exuded by the roots apparently), but then quickly sacked it off as too much work. They can all fend for themselves, it'll be an interesting experiment. 

 

 

[Stere]

I thought juglone only affected certain plants like tomatoes.....

 

Looking at wikipedia the  info seems abit unclear on how much it does effect various plants....

 

 

Of the walnuts  at a properties ive done work at  with many different plants species  underneath one was  in a large  flower border for example and ive not seen any noticable ill effects.

 

 

 

 

Edited Monday at 12:50 by Stere