Karabiners info required

[elfie]

Looking for the smallest 3 way locking karabiner.

Any advice on the equipment greatly appreciated folks.

[peds]

https://www.austrialpin.at/en/products/carabiners/detail/nm31ak-micro-3-way-autolock/

 

That one is 94mm, 33kN

 

This DMM is 95mm, 24kN

 

PerfectO Locking

DMMWALES.COM

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Compact connections. The PerfectO is a compact true oval connector that minimises the eye-to-eye length...

 

 

 

94, 95 doesn't sound very short, does it. How long is a regular 3-action? All my kit is out in the shed and I'm comfy I'm afraid. Anyone got one nearby?

[JAG63]

Most of mine are 110 to 120

 

[manco]

12 hours ago, elfie said:

Looking for the smallest 3 way locking karabiner.

Any advice on the equipment greatly appreciated folks.

why?

[peds]

9 minutes ago, manco said:

why?

 

First thing that springs to my mind are rescue quickdraws like these:

 

 

Sometimes you need to cram more pieces into a short space.  2x94mm is significantly shorter than 2x120mm, I suppose.

Sometimes midgets need rescuing too...

 

 

Other applications as well, probably. But I agree... why?

[Doug Tait]

Is it not for rigging? Just assumed that as the question is in rigging section.

[peds]

Question still stands though Doug, why specifically do we want the shortest biner?

Obviously there's a need for them, or they wouldn't make them, and elfie OP wouldn't be asking for one. But still... why do we need to shave 15-25mm off a connection?

 

Just making conversation on this bank holiday Monday, no climbing for me today. 

[Doug Tait]

Maybe the op has little hands and finds it awkward to action the common sized biners.

 

I find the DMM styles in your pic are fine but a Big Dan is a challenge one handed.

[peds]

2 hours ago, Doug Tait said:

Maybe the op has little hands and finds it awkward to action the common sized biners.

 

Definitely possible with a name like Elfie.

 

And yeah, the big ones can be a wrestle, especially if you're not in a good position as such. 

[manco]

2 hours ago, peds said:

 

Definitely possible with a name like Elfie.

 

And yeah, the big ones can be a wrestle, especially if you're not in a good position as such. 

ive never had trouble handling my big one