Training contracts - has anyone ever tried recouping costs from training a staff member that has left?

[AHPP]

44 minutes ago, 5thelement said:

They earned the certificate with their own ability, not you, even if you paid for it, it’s not yours, you’re not paying for a hooker.

A replacement certificate is about £50 and just an email to Lantra/City and Guilds away.

 

Ability bestowed upon them by being trained by the employer or someone he delegates the job to.

 

Devil’s advocate. Don’t shoot. 
 

The real problem here I think is the concept of employment as it currently operates. The law sees them as servants, at best fleshy robots, to be coddled and commanded by their employers. I’m aware some workers want to turn their brain off work at five and turn it back on at nine the next morning but I think the near absolute lack of self-direction that blueprint employment encourages is bad for a man. Self-employed people tend to self-improve to compete, which is good for everyone. There’s no reason why, in a world of only business operators and self-employed people, agreements couldn’t be made about use of other people’s equipment, having courses paid for by them etc. The current system infantilises workers. 

 

 

[Mick Dempsey]

@AHPP
Whilst I wouldn’t call your views on employment infantile, they always strike me as having more than a whiff of a six form common room about them, simplistic, poorly thought out and mainly articulated to look edgy and to try to get in the Goth birds knickers.

 

Everyone being self employed may, at a pinch, work for something like tree work.

But most businesses, manufacturers of things like cars or furniture or whatever, need stability of a workforce, especially the skilled ones, some kind of guarantee of work and therefore money……an employment contract if you will.

The advantages are the company can press ahead with projects, reasonably secure having a stable workforce, on his side the employee can look to the future with some confidence, borrow money, have kids, buy a house etc.

 

It’s mutually beneficial. 

 

 

 

 

[AHPP]

Workers wanting stability can sign a 5/10/20/life year deal with the car factory. Sketchy arb types can live on their wits to their hearts’ contents. And anyone can do anything in between as long as someone else wants to be the other half of the deal. 
 

It sounds edgy but all it is is individual choice in a world where that’s the exception rather than the rule. 

Edited yesterday at 15:38 by AHPP

[AHPP]

And I’ll have you know a goth bird very clearly eyed me up only four days ago and I left her well alone. Largely because I’m not sure she was old enough to drive. 

Edited 23 hours ago by AHPP

[dumper]

7 hours ago, GarethM said:

Yeap, we've all had bosses like him.

 

Most of us choose to leave eventually and vow never again to work for such people, whilst business is somewhat about being hard nosed it's also about taking it on the chin and saying I'd rather be forgotten & ignored than despised/hated and badmouthed to everyone.

I employ all my labour, full time I pay sick pay at full time, I pay 4 weeks holiday per year plus bank holidays, they get the use of vehicles and tools at weeed7 holidays for pjs at no cost,. I treat my workers with respect if we were only talking about lantra I might let it go as they are cheap compared to cpcs and nvq, they know the score before they start