Stove statistics are they correct?

[peds]

I love my MVHR. Air in non-vented houses just feels so stale and clammy now. Huge upgrade from the open fire and damp walls of the hovel we lived in whilst building the new house. 

 

Well worth the investment if you've got the cash for one.

 

Except, haha, funny story... the sparky who did our electrics had a colleague of his install our system... and he put the pipes above the insulation I'd laid up in the attic... and during the cold spell a couple of weeks ago the wet air from the upstairs bathroom was actually condensing in the pipe before it reached the unit... and ended up dripping back down into the bathroom before we realised. 

There's another few hundred euro of insulation cuddling the pipes now, and we gave it a few days of extra power to suck the pipes dry...

That's the end of that story. Back to the squabbling now gentlemen, please. 

[Steven P]

I'm looking at something to go in the loft - air-con, Dehumidifier or MVHR, the delay is not being convinced which system yet - but will be something up there eventually.

[BillQ]

2 hours ago, GarethM said:

You know what the definition of insanity is, as that what you're asking.

Yeah, hence my post earlier...

 

"A fools errand but hey-ho!" So I kinda knew what was building. 

 

If insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting the same results then I am insane, however you said that you are "confident in my own knowledge" but have been proven wrong so the only other possibility is narcissism or some sort of liar, but I am sure that won't bother you in the slightest. 

 

 

[GarethM]

12 minutes ago, BillQ said:

Yeah, hence my post earlier...

 

"A fools errand but hey-ho!" So I kinda knew what was building. 

 

If insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting the same results then I am insane, however you said that you are "confident in my own knowledge" but have been proven wrong so the only other possibility is narcissism or some sort of liar, but I am sure that won't bother you in the slightest.

Auww, bless.

[Muddy42]

6 hours ago, Stere said:

 

What about   Domestic MVHRs?

 

 

 

 

 

 

you’ve lost me there, no idea.

[spudulike]

5 hours ago, GarethM said:

Think you'll find spud is not in a control zone, so can do as he pleases legally and is only controlling the burn rate and not flue temperatures.

Basically, I find in life that designers often design something that can be made to work better than they ever intended, I have found this in commercial manufacturing equipment and domestic purchases through my life.

 

When I shut all my stove dampers down, thus shutting off all air to the burn, I would expect the fire to pretty much go out. When I did this (before I modded the stove), the fire would just carry on....big orange flames, firewood burning away quickly and zero control. 

I know from previous fires, I could go from orange flame, to dancing thinner blue flames of the burning gas from the firewood to putting the fire with a deep red glow out by gradually shutting down the dampers to nothing.

 

My stove will now do all this and have reset my original stove settings to leave the air wash on full (albeit with my modded plate restriction), the air input around the rear of the upper part of the stove but the lower front and flue damper closed.

The result is more heat, nice clean glass (so I know the burn is good) and longer lasting firewood. 

I just don't accept what others wouldn't notice and chip away at issues until I have them beat. Want to hear about the Air Source Heat Pump......actually, it would take too long!!

 

[Dan Maynard]

It's really a question of the effects of mass production, designing for tolerances and variation rather than optimising each item. Applies to stoves, chainsaws, anything mechanical really. Probably less so electronics, but even then you can tweak about and overclock computers as long as you keep an eye on the core temperatures.....