Reg Coates new device

[peds]

5 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

The first 201s were rubbish, so Reg did a vid crushing one with his truck.

I had one and it was profoundly gutless. Heaven knows how or why Stihl released them (perhaps Husky’s new 540 release panicked them)

 

A saw tuner called Snelling in the US brought them up to spec with a timing advance and a new ignition unit or something. I had it fitted to mine and it really brought it up to speed.

Stihl saw what he did and released the same mod/kit as an aftermarket “upgrade” never admitting their error.

 

Pretty soon the second lot of 201s had it as standard.

 

A big error on their part, cost them a lot of goodwill.

Righto.  Interesting history, thanks. 

 

Next question then... how will @kram be making his budget alternative to a hook device?

 

I've got a few shed hooks from Lidl waiting for a purpose, they are rated to at least 15kg... one of those'll do, on a bit of blue polyprop, right?

[Mick Dempsey]

3 minutes ago, peds said:

Righto.  Interesting history, thanks. 

 

Next question then... how will @kram be making his budget alternative to a hook device?

 

I've got a few shed hooks from Lidl waiting for a purpose, they are rated to at least 15kg... one of those'll do, on a bit of blue polyprop, right?

Knowing him, he’ll be rifling through the skips behind a theatre this Christmas where there’s a Peter Pan pantomime.

Bound to be a hook in there somewhere…

[kram]

I have plenty of 6082T6 alu bar in the shed if I wanted to make one. Can also anodise it cherry red so it wouldnt look too shite either.

 

These graples and captain hooks are not rated as PPE, theres nothing to stop anyone doing that, or buying a 3 hook cheapy of amazon for a tenner and removing two of the hooks.

 

The 150kg WLL is stated by Notch but havent listed a safety factor.

 

Should it be rated as PPE?

 

Lets say you climb to the top  of something and grapple a tree 8 meters distant, and pull yourself across and just as you get there, the grapple releases. You have a 8m swing back to the first tree, with the same drop in height.

If theres nothing to slow you down, or impale you on the way back, thats a lot of energy to be disipated when you hit the trunk. Perhaps equal to falling 4 or 5 meters, it would likely hurt depending on the rope angle - thats the important bit, but given UK trees are not that tall, the angle wont be too good.

If you dont stay the same height as the grapple, you still have a 8m drop at a better rope angle but could be a ground fall.

 

Reg seems to frequently climb very tall 60m conifers, solo without a groundy, jump across to a dead one etc.. while in the UK we are lucky to have many over 20-25 meters. The odd tree might go to 35m.

 

I cant see it being very useful over here, but perhaps thats my lack of experience. I would throw my second rope and get groundy to attach it to first rope tail, pull it back up and DRT across, is how I'd go about it.

 

Better than carrying a 600 gram device around with you. It looks silky shaped and sized so its going to catch on the saw lanyard every time.

 

 

[gand]

Glad this has got some spark back into climbing equipment. With this, you've got to remember the the DMM Captain is £150 Inc Vat and that's one piece metal. No hinge which will take more manufacturing and testing. We will see how it goes.

[Mick Dempsey]

7 hours ago, kram said:

I have plenty of 6082T6 alu bar in the shed if I wanted to make one. Can also anodise it cherry red so it wouldnt look too shite either.

 

These graples and captain hooks are not rated as PPE, theres nothing to stop anyone doing that, or buying a 3 hook cheapy of amazon for a tenner and removing two of the hooks.

 

The 150kg WLL is stated by Notch but havent listed a safety factor.

 

Should it be rated as PPE?

 

Lets say you climb to the top  of something and grapple a tree 8 meters distant, and pull yourself across and just as you get there, the grapple releases. You have a 8m swing back to the first tree, with the same drop in height.

If theres nothing to slow you down, or impale you on the way back, thats a lot of energy to be disipated when you hit the trunk. Perhaps equal to falling 4 or 5 meters, it would likely hurt depending on the rope angle - thats the important bit, but given UK trees are not that tall, the angle wont be too good.

If you dont stay the same height as the grapple, you still have a 8m drop at a better rope angle but could be a ground fall.

 

Reg seems to frequently climb very tall 60m conifers, solo without a groundy, jump across to a dead one etc.. while in the UK we are lucky to have many over 20-25 meters. The odd tree might go to 35m.

 

I cant see it being very useful over here, but perhaps thats my lack of experience. I would throw my second rope and get groundy to attach it to first rope tail, pull it back up and DRT across, is how I'd go about it.

 

Better than carrying a 600 gram device around with you. It looks silky shaped and sized so its going to catch on the saw lanyard every time.

 

 

Agree up to a point, I mean I’ll never use it. But it may be handy for the SRT boys fiddle farting on 1 mètre reductions on big spready canopies.

 

I’m very minimalist in regards what’s on my harness, others like to have stuff with them.

 

[Hank]

11 hours ago, gand said:

Glad this has got some spark back into climbing equipment. With this, you've got to remember the the DMM Captain is £150 Inc Vat and that's one piece metal. No hinge which will take more manufacturing and testing. We will see how it goes.

Agree with this. It's expensive but if it means that folks like Reg can get paid while continuing to develop and refine equipment, making things better and safer for the rest of us, I don't think that's a bad thing. 

[Oxman]

Arborella was a 1968 movie about a space girl wearing a see-thru plastic bra with dome cups, starring Jane Fonda. 

[peds]

I had to cut a few metres off an 11.5mm semi-static... still a good few years left in it... so I might try bending a skinny scrap of rebar I've got hanging about... and see if I can come up with anything worthwhile.

[Hank]

 

[Mark Bolam]

He always explains things so well.

 

Anyone else spot the arborella in the background from 12.37?