How many knots do you know/use?

[Mesterh]

Back to the truckers hitch, I know there is a version where you twist the bow, if that makes any sense. I never understand why you would or wouldn't do it. Any ideas on why twisting it makes a difference?

 

[Treewolf]

The "old" or traditional way to tie what was once known as the lorryman's hitch (because in those days we had lorries not trucks) used half a sheepshank to form the loop for the running part, rather than the slippery half hitch favoured today. In this form it is usually necessary to twist the loop to prevent it collapsing before you can apply tension. This version works well with natural fibre cordage but not with synthetic and has consequently fallen out of favour. Using the slippery half hitch structure avoids the need for the twists but does mean the hitch won't simply shake out when released, which was a feature of the original form.

Edited May 5, 2024 by Treewolf

[peds]

Fascinating stuff, cheers.

[Mesterh]

8 minutes ago, Treewolf said:

The "old" or traditional way to tie what was once known as the lorryman's hitch (because in those days we had lorries not trucks) used half a sheepshank to form the loop for the running part, rather than the slippery half hitch favoured today. In this form it is usually necessary to twist the loop to prevent it collapsing before you can apply tension. This version works well with natural fibre cordage but not with synthetic and has consequently fallen out of favour. Using the slippery half hitch structure avoids the need for the twists but does mean the hitch won't simply shake out when released, which was a feature of the original form.

Ahh right, that makes sense, thanks.

 

 

[peds]

CMC video on trucker's hitch

 

Fun video on upgrading a few knots in the trucker's hitch to carabiners and getting a stronger, safer result. Potentially a bit quicker than setting up a 3-1, less risk of rope damage if you are expecting a heavy load than as a rope-only trucker's. 

 

 

 

https://www.cmcpro.com/learn-how-to-tie-a-truckers-hitch-knot/

Edited May 5, 2024 by peds

[peds]

13 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

 

You make a loop, lay it on the rope.

make a turn round the loop, then (and this is the key) make a second turn INSIDE the first one.

just shake to undo.

 

IMG_3501.mov

 

Hang on then, how do you tie it off after you've given it a tug? 

 

This is probably the best video on learning to tie the trucker's hitch, anyway:

 

 

[AHPP]

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[Canal Navvy]

Bowline on a bight has to be a must for anyone doing winch assisted fells with a bull rope. Can be easily untied even when pulled on really hard and if the loops are tied evenly the weak point around a shackle is doubled up. 

You do at the very least have to show assistants how to untie it afterwards otherwise it's a long wait 😄

[Canal Navvy]

Just now, Canal Navvy said:

Bowline on a bight has to be a must for anyone doing winch assisted fells with a bull rope. Can be easily untied even when pulled on really hard and if the loops are tied evenly the weak point around a shackle is doubled up. 

You do at the very least have to show assistants how to untie it afterwards otherwise it's a long wait 😄

 

And to answer the original question 

Bowline

Bowline on a bight

Reef

Clove

Rolling hitch

Slippery hitch

Blakes

Fig 8

Reathreaded fig 8

Alpine butterfly 

Fisherman's

Truckers dolly