Help needed with this tree!

[David88]

Looked on loads of sites around what tree this could be and I genuinely don’t have a clue after an hour or so of searching.

 

Would appreciate some help in identifying this one. Found in a woodland NW England 

[nepia]

Do the branches have a small number of thorns?  The leaf and flower is looking very much like Elaeagnus x Ebbingei.  I've never seen one that size but I'm not aware of anything that says that if a specimen was left alone it couldn't attain it

[shillo]

id say thats Eleagnus too but ive never seen one that big either

[David88]

38 minutes ago, nepia said:

Do the branches have a small number of thorns?  The leaf and flower is looking very much like Elaeagnus x Ebbingei.  I've never seen one that size but I'm not aware of anything that says that if a specimen was left alone it couldn't attain it

I’ll have to go have a look for thorns and report back. It really is a large tree. One of the branches has snapped and is hanging off.

 

im doing a bit of path/trail clearance in a local woodland (with owner permission) so really keen to know what I’m dealing with and treat everything with due respect. 
 

Looks like a very old tree. 

[Dan Maynard]

I was sent to reduce an eleagnus, looked around and couldn't see it in the garden so had to ask the customer, and they pointed at a tree nearly that big which I was standing next to.

 

So not often, but I have seen a big eleagnus before.

[trotter251]

I would also be guessing Elaeagnus spp.

[daltontrees]

I'm pretty sure it's a holm oak Quercus ilex.

Edited October 11, 2023 by daltontrees

[Stere]

Almost looks like a camellia from first 2 pics but im guessing eleagnus from last pic silver underside to leaves?

 

Thoose small thingys- are they flowers? should help the ID but I can't find a similar example with google?

 

Bark looks distinctive also very similar to  old hawthorn.

 

 

 

Also is it  maybe an old estate wood with some exotic shrub species planted for pheasant cover etc?

Edited October 11, 2023 by Stere

[daltontrees]

I didn't see the flowers. I'm revising my guess to Eleagnus ebbingei.

[David88]

Thanks to everyone for their help. I went back to day for some more pics. It really is a giant if it’s Eleangus - compared to any other pics I’ve seen online. 
 

but I am fairly sure you’re all right and that’s what it is!

 

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