House boats with wood burners targeted.

[Ty Korrigan]

Here:

 

Ban on wood burners threatens British boat-dwellers with winter freeze | Fuel poverty | The Guardian

WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM

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A new law allows British councils to impose on-the-spot fines for emitting smoke

 

[daltontrees]

Four points. Firstly house boats are not being 'targeted', they are being added to the controls that exist for buildings. Secondly they are only controlled when moored in a Smoke Control Area. Thirdly, it doesn't threaten 'British' boat dwellers, it only applies to England. Fourthly, it is only an offence to emit smoke or to burn a fuel type that is not of an 'approved' type.

Not quite as dramatic as the headlines.

[GarethM]

It's also been known about within the boating community for decades.

 

From memory, it's also illegal to sell non smokeless fuels such as coal in a smoke control area.

 

Plus it's not called itinerant, it's continuous cruising.

Edited September 24, 2023 by GarethM

[eggsarascal]

What a croc! Who’s going to police it?… The article says they will rely on homeowners to report smoke, good luck with that. And narrowboats are measured in feet not meters.

[GarethM]

Local councils are supposed to oversee it, the same councils that fail to even fine anyone for dog mess, littering and even fly tipping! 

 

Unless they're planning to farm it out with financial incentives, might be one way to get actual results.

 

Granted I think half the article is a recycled wood burners are bad bs.

Edited September 24, 2023 by GarethM

[Chris at eden]

13 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

What a croc! Who’s going to police it?… The article says they will rely on homeowners to report smoke, good luck with that. And narrowboats are measured in feet not meters.

You’d be surprised. When I worked as TO the public used to report all sorts of stuff to me.  Not just TPO stuff. 

[GarethM]

1 minute ago, Chris at eden said:

You’d be surprised. When I worked as TO the public used to report all sorts of stuff to me.  Not just TPO stuff. 

And did anyone actually get done, not planning stuff as that's a whole different legal quagmire.

[Chris at eden]

10 minutes ago, GarethM said:

Local councils are supposed to oversee it, the same councils that fail to even fine anyone for dog mess, littering and even fly tipping! 

 

Unless they're planning to farm it out with financial incentives, might be one way to get actual results.

 

Granted I think half the article is a recycled wood burners are bad bs.

Council’s do enforce fly tipping.  Problem is, fly tipping is a criminal offence so the odds are staked massively in favour of the defendant.  They pretty much need to find smoothing with personal details in the rubbish. 

[eggsarascal]

1 minute ago, Chris at eden said:

You’d be surprised. When I worked as TO the public used to report all sorts of stuff to me.  Not just TPO stuff. 

Some sad people about by the sounds of it. I bought a place next to the canal because I enjoy seeing the boats. I for one wouldn’t be reporting someone for keeping warm.

[Chris at eden]

1 minute ago, GarethM said:

And did anyone actually get done, not planning stuff as that's a whole different legal quagmire.

They did but it’s hard to get legal to take it on. It has to be a slam dunk as councils can’t afford to lose cases due to the costs.