Valid qualification or not?

[Albion435]

So this is my qualification/certificate.

I think it is a forestry specific one.

I am getting mixed messages, one training provider saying it is obsolete and I can't do a refresher on it as it doesn't exist now. 

Another saying it's fine as it is a life long qualification. 

I don't know what to do as the cost of doing it again from scratch 

is high.

Should I maybe just do the larger tree one, if they let me? I want to be a freelance/self employed ground worker, have no interest in climbing. 

Advice appreciated. Thanks. 

 

[openspaceman]

Same era certificate as mine and I refreshed it  by doing the windblown then chainsaw from MEWP and it all got updated on the system, my last refresher was 8 years ago now so not acceptable to some firms without a further refresh.

[Bolt]

Depends entirely on what the company(s) that you will be doing work for will accept.

 

Some will be happy with just a days felling and maintenance refresher, and a certificate of attendance from a training provider….. others will require an in-date NPTC or LANTRA qualification.

 

Unfortunately, there is no right or wrong answer - it depends on your circumstance.

[Bolt]

Impressively old certificate though…. Early ‘90s?

 

[richyrich]

I think you should be able to do the larger tree one without retaking basic felling and maintenance again- I did something similar. Early 1990 s as above I think, then climbing and saw in tree around 2009?? , Then larger trees a few years ago..

[LynherTraining]

NPTC certificates are lifetime qualifications however HSE want to see refresher training every 3-5 years (so do most insurance companies). NPTC now have CPD qualification which are principally a day with an assessor checking that you are all up-to-date with legislation and haven't picked up any bad habits since your last training. This would probably be the best option for you. Just contact your local NPTC centre and they should be able to arrange.

https://www.nptc.org.uk/qualificationschemes.aspx?id=16&back=cpd

 

[Albion435]

Hi yes, that is what I think and it has been backed up by the NPTC however I got this from a training provider. 

Anyway they are the only ones that are saying this so will just go elsewhere.

I also attach an email from the NPTC.w code numbers 201/202/203.

The current qualifications only allow candidates to fell up to 380ml diameter

[5thelement]

16 hours ago, Albion435 said:

Hi yes, that is what I think and it has been backed up by the NPTC however I got this from a training provider. 

Anyway they are the only ones that are saying this so will just go elsewhere.

I also attach an email from the NPTC.w code numbers 201/202/203.

The current qualifications only allow candidates to fell up to 380ml diameter

It sounds like this training provider hasn’t got a clue, CS32 courses are being run all the time, I would certainly dodge them altogether and find someone who knows what they are talking about.

Download the current CS30/31 equivalent schedule from NPTC, familiarise yourself with it as there are lots of changes since you took yours, then book a refresher with an NPTC assessor, if you pass your certificate will then be updated and in itself, a refresher for 5 years, or can be used as a prerequisite for any of the higher level felling assessments including CS32.

Edited August 18, 2023 by 5thelement

[Dan Maynard]

On 18/08/2023 at 13:06, 5thelement said:

CS32 courses are being run all the time,

Looking myself at the moment, plenty around as you say. Just need to ask providers sometimes when their next one is scheduled.

[5thelement]

18 minutes ago, Dan Maynard said:

Looking myself at the moment, plenty around as you say. Just need to ask providers sometimes when their next one is scheduled.

Where are you based?