Lowering Masterclass

[redmoosefaction]

I was up a tree yesterday lowering stuff off by rope, as you do, and I thought I would share this with you.

 

It's basically tying a Karabina to the end of your lowering rope, so you don't have to tie knots, you just wrap and clip in.

 

I hadn't come across this till someone from Australia showed me. It's so simple yet save hours, or am I being a bit stupid and everyone else is doing it.

Edited February 17, 2010 by redmoosefaction

[nepia]

We'll let you know when our psychic powers return to tell us what it is. Lol!

[Ian Flatters]

I was up a tree yesterday lowering stuff off by rope, as you do, and I thought I would share this with you.

 

It's basically tying a Karabina to the end of your lowering rope

 

I hadn't come across this till someone from Australia showed me. It's so simple yet save hours, or am I being a bit stupid and everyone else is doing it.

 

If i think what your saying is tying a bowline for instance then clipping a crab into that then whipping it round the branch and clip!? Then yes for the last 10 years i've been doing that:thumbup:. I prefer putting a webbing sling larks footed around the branch the clpping the crab to that (reduced risk of side loading).

[Craig Johnson]

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I was up a tree yesterday lowering stuff off by rope, as you do, and I thought I would share this with you.

 

It's basically tying a Karabina to the end of your lowering rope, so you don't have to tie knots, you just wrap and clip in.:scared1

 

I hadn't come across this till someone from Australia showed me. It's so simple yet save hours, or am I being a bit stupid and everyone else is doing it.

 

red, its ok on very small stuff, but there's a big risk of cross loading the gate, better idea is to put a sling round the branch and clip to that, if you want to do any thing of a bigger you'll need two binners back to back.

 

and it better if you use steel binners

[Alinicoll]

Then of course, with small stuff, you can use a few slings and hence cut two or three pieces in on lower.

[educated arborist]

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red, its ok on very small stuff, but there's a big risk of cross loading the gate, better idea is to put a sling round the branch and clip to that, if you want to do any thing of a bigger you'll need two binners back to back.

 

and it better if you use steel binners

 

Trevo did some research into loading binas like this some time ago & has been stressed at every aa trade fair ever since. Not a good way to atach things IMO I have inspected quite a few krabs & hooks which have been bent in this way. The bigger (longer) the conector the worst the effect

[Treeson]

D shackles are far better for this purpose, they are a lot stronger and do not put as much bend in the lowering rope at point of contact with knot.

the safe working loads are a lot higher and they are as cheap as chips in comparison with biners.

[redmoosefaction]

D shackles are far better for this purpose, they are a lot stronger and do not put as much bend in the lowering rope at point of contact with knot.

the safe working loads are a lot higher and they are as cheap as chips in comparison with biners.

 

Don't you have to screw d.shackles up.. With Krabs they just clip in.. speed is the essence here.

I think I need to say as all the above have stated that this is for lighter branches. I double wrap them either side of a side branch to prevent slippage.

 

The idea of using steel krabs is a very good idea.

[Alinicoll]

I normally climb with a 70kn steel krab and webbing strop. The webbing strop is ofter useful but the reason is when rigging smallish stuff you can just attach the strop to the branch and the krab, clip it onto your lowering line and away you go. Its still pretty fast, both for climber and groundy.

[redmoosefaction]

I normally climb with a 70kn steel krab and webbing strop. The webbing strop is ofter useful but the reason is when rigging smallish stuff you can just attach the strop to the branch and the krab, clip it onto your lowering line and away you go. Its still pretty fast, both for climber and groundy.

 

Will have a go at that. Suppose multi strop is okay for that as well, as you said. Time management.