Putting a different engine in a chipper...

[swinny]

Has anyone ever swapped out a shitty engine for a nicer one of a different make? 

 

What are the things to consider?

 

I'm thinking modify engine mounts, wiring harness to sort etc and exh, air filter set up. 

 

One main concern for me is the bell housing end and the output shaft, getting these to mate up, being same spline as clutch, same dia for bearing in flywheel and long enough also

 

That and it pains me to have to make up and engine and rad cover also...

 

Not 100% about going down this route but it may well be an option. 

 

Any one done owt similar?

 

Shoot me now 🤪

[htb]

What engine are you thinking of chopping out. Fitted many different engines into land rover products over the years, Fords, Iveco, Mercedes, Perkins and Mazda.

[swinny]

I have a smokey hatz engine that smokes on startup. Would love to throw it in the canal and put a perkins in there to be honest.  

 

Did consider a deutz air cooled also.

 

Just worried about matching Bell housings up and clutch / out put shaft 

[htb]

What size/ model of Hatz diesel?

Depends on your engineering skills with grinder and welder

[GarethM]

Hatz engines will always smoke on start up, they use a simple over fuel start system as they don't have an fuel injection system like a Perkins.

 

It's one of the reasons a hatz goes full throttle on starting regardless of what the throttle settings is before settling down.

[swinny]

7 hours ago, GarethM said:

Hatz engines will always smoke on start up, they use a simple over fuel start system as they don't have an fuel injection system like a Perkins.

 

It's one of the reasons a hatz goes full throttle on starting regardless of what the throttle settings is before settling down.

This has individual injector pumps for each cylinder (4) I only have issues with 2 cylinders.  Even after a rebuild, new injectors and swap pumps etc. I'm wondering if those 2 cylinders are glazed but not sure how 2 of 4 would do so..... fed up of the bloody thing tbh. Not many folk about know about these hatz and not many mechanics about good enough to help (more fitters and not diesel mechanics)

[swinny]

10 hours ago, htb said:

What size/ model of Hatz diesel?

Depends on your engineering skills with grinder and welder

4m40l 4cyl 60-70hp

[dumper]

What are you trying to fit engine to ?

[swinny]

5 minutes ago, dumper said:

What are you trying to fit engine to ?

My bandit 90 possibly

[GarethM]

Ah, that's the big boy hatz at around 2.6 litres without the silent pack.

 

I've the tiny single cylinder 667cc silent pack, is yours a fixed RPM as they seem to sell variable versions.

 

Just thinking whatever you want to mate it too you'll need to know the max rpm so it doesn't grenade itself.

 

Daft question, have they adjusted the valve clearances ?. As I assume it's just smoke from the diesel burning and not oil consumption.

Edited May 1, 2023 by GarethM