Why are young’ish people leaving the job market?

[eggsarascal]

17 minutes ago, GarethM said:

I'm sure your the only person who can sit alone in a dark room and cause an argument.

 

It's been said several time even by other people, not paying new people crap wages is the single only way to attract anyone into any industry.

 

You just choose to keep asking the same question and not accepting those coming in are not getting rewarded.

Don’t talk like a tw@t, I’ve always spoke out for good wages to attract people into manual work. Show me once where I haven’t. I think people about this parish will tell you differently.

[trigger_andy]

6 hours ago, eggsarascal said:

Listening to the wireless just now, the topic is, people in their 50’s leaving work behind. I bumped into a fella I used to go to school with at the local remembrance parade on Sunday, his plan is to finish at 55 when his pension kicks in, mine also kicks in in 3 years time, and I’ll probably slowdown when it does. If we all pack in, or slowdown at 55 what will be the end result?

I think this is an entirely empirical observation. Certainly not one I’m seeing up

here where Trade Jobs have literally dozens of not hundreds of Applicants.

 

But of what you’re saying is true, (and I’m not sure I believe it is) then the answer lies in the wages. Up the wages til earning them and putting the time into getting a trade is worth it. We’re out of the EU. Employers have to lose the mentality that they can pay a fraction above minimum wage for skilled labour. Why work when the benefits pay more? 
 

End result? Wages simply have to reflect the skill and shortage of a skilled workforce. Supply and demand. Hence why Arb pays less than minimum wage.  

[trigger_andy]

4 hours ago, pleasant said:

I deffered my personal pension when I got to 55, as I was still enjoying work and TBH I simply couldn't afford to retire- particulary now I have to work until 67 to get the state pension. So put it back until I would be 60

 

That was nearly 5 years ago now, so next year i can start taking it......and I still can't afford to retire. Just received my pension statement for the last years payments and my pot has gone DOWN by 25k on this time last year.

 

 

I am so glad my State and my main private pension will come from Norway. The U.K. state pension will be worth beer tokens and nothing more. 

 

[GarethM]

I'm sure my pension in the decades ahead will just about cover a fika once a month 

[eggsarascal]

8 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

I think this is an entirely empirical observation. Certainly not one I’m seeing up

here where Trade Jobs have literally dozens of not hundreds of Applicants.

 

But of what you’re saying is true, (and I’m not sure I believe it is) then the answer lies in the wages. Up the wages til earning them and putting the time into getting a trade is worth it. We’re out of the EU. Employers have to lose the mentality that they can pay a fraction above minimum wage for skilled labour. Why work when the benefits pay more? 
 

End result? Wages simply have to reflect the skill and shortage of a skilled workforce. Supply and demand. Hence why Arb pays less than minimum wage.  

Why would you presume what I’ve said isn’t true?

[trigger_andy]

Just now, eggsarascal said:

Why would you presume what I’ve said isn’t true?

It’s all a very Eggy hyperbole. To be taken with a scoop of salt. 
 

We’re constantly hearing about a skilled labour shortage due the Brexit (🙄) yet you’ve an anecdotal tail of a few retirees gassing about how on earth they could possibly be replaced. 🤷‍♂️ 

 

Same as it ever was. 

[trigger_andy]

4 hours ago, GarethM said:

The reality must be 40k+ a year manual jobs since they were 25, your not going to retire early if your on 25k.

£25k a year and you’ll never retire. 

[trigger_andy]

2 hours ago, eggsarascal said:

This simply is not true, £40k on the books isn’t cutting it around Stoke, very few are entering the trade. More are leaving it. I’ll ask again, what are ‘we’ going to do about it?

 

 

That’s a total piss take. 

[trigger_andy]

2 hours ago, Haironyourchest said:

Robots/migrants. Maybe both.

 

 

What about migrant robots?

[GarethM]

The chinglish manuals are already bad enough!.