Is there any reason for not sharing a vehicle VIN

[eggsarascal]

16 minutes ago, Rich Rule said:

A VIN number can be quite valuable.

 

Or at least they used to be.

 

Caveat: I did grow up in the Car Crime capital of UK, Aka teeside.

 

 

 

 

Long time ago Rich, Stoke was full of lads ringing cars back in the day, the DVLA are way on top of it these days. Most nicked cars, caravans, motorhomes are away over the water to be ringed/broke abroad these days.

[Rich Rule]

29 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

Long time ago Rich, Stoke was full of lads ringing cars back in the day, the DVLA are way on top of it these days. Most nicked cars, caravans, motorhomes are away over the water to be ringed/broke abroad these days.

Stoke sounds very similar to Stockton, Middlesbrough and the rest of Teeside:

 

There was a lot of it on going back in the 90’s.  A school friend got sent down very young for his part in the family business.  He was TWOC’ing them and his dad, uncle and brothers were ringing them. 
 

A number of others didn’t get sent down.
 

 

 

[eggsarascal]

13 minutes ago, Rich Rule said:

Stoke sounds very similar to Stockton, Middlesbrough and the rest of Teeside:

 

There was a lot of it on going back in the 90’s.  
 

 

 

North Midlands, North Eastern parts of the country suffered at that time, and still do. Moving back here, even though I'm out in the sticks is an eye opener for me. 

[Rich Rule]

If it is anything like Stockton.  It is just full of Albanians and other Slavic nations.

 

Not like it used to be.  
 

I was warned a few years ago back up there.  Back I. The day there would be a scuffle and few punch ups etc.  now it’s stabbings and the like.

[eggsarascal]

1 minute ago, Rich Rule said:

If it is anything like Stockton.  It is just full of Albanians and other Slavic nations.

 

Not like it used to be.  
 

I was warned a few years ago back up there.  Back I. The day there would be a scuffle and few punch ups etc.  now it’s stabbings and the like.

Stoke is the same, it's rough beyond what I remember. The amount of beggars and rough sleepers in the city centre is out of control. The few times I've been in I'm hassled for money, when I tell them I've no change it turns into an argument. Strange times.

[Steven P]

15 hours ago, eggsarascal said:

Stoke is the same, it's rough beyond what I remember. The amount of beggars and rough sleepers in the city centre is out of control. The few times I've been in I'm hassled for money, when I tell them I've no change it turns into an argument. Strange times.

 

Walked down the street the other week feeling generous, gave a few coins to all the beggers.. at the end of the road, I had to ask people, begging as it were, for my bus fare home.

[Steven P]

When I was working in town you get to recognise the beggars, same people, same spots every day, and then you get to notice that they all know each other, often walking off together. At a conservative £100 a day each (100 people dropping money in their hat, 7 hour day, needs £15 an hour, 1 donation every 4 or 5 minutes... which they easily do in some spots) and with a family (there is a group of 6 who are all one family) it isn't a bad family income, tax free, undeclared, plus state benefits.

 

Never had time to follow them home yet but I bet they don't go back to a hostel.

 

 

They don't get anything from me as a rule of thumb now

[Rich Rule]

3 hours ago, Steven P said:

When I was working in town you get to recognise the beggars, same people, same spots every day, and then you get to notice that they all know each other, often walking off together. At a conservative £100 a day each (100 people dropping money in their hat, 7 hour day, needs £15 an hour, 1 donation every 4 or 5 minutes... which they easily do in some spots) and with a family (there is a group of 6 who are all one family) it isn't a bad family income, tax free, undeclared, plus state benefits.

 

Never had time to follow them home yet but I bet they don't go back to a hostel.

 

 

They don't get anything from me as a rule of thumb now

I went to Uni in Chester.  Plenty of tourists in that city.

 

The beggars were in the same spot everyday.  A few lived near us and we used to see them staggering about and in the local convenience store changing their bags of 1 pound coins for notes.  
 

Proper smack heads.

 

On more than one occasion I saw the smack head, beggar getting a taxi to the city centre as he was too mashed up to walk.  I remember the commotion as the taxi driver didn’t want to take his “dog on a string’ in the cab.

 

Proper scum.

 

 

[AHPP]

I can be as cynical as the next man about beggars, drugheads etc but do keep a bit of an open mind. You don't know whether the man in front of you is lazy scum with no excuse or whether he's gone down a path that started with his dad's mates taking turns to rape him while his dad put fags out on the back of his neck. Or something in between.

Edited July 30, 2022 by AHPP

[Steven P]

This is true, can't say they are all the same, however here you can spot the ones doing this as a career, to the casual passer by though, maybe not. You can also spot the genuine cases,.,,, who are less common and pushed to the outskirts by the 'professionals', the family groups who can be persuasive to the single beggars to move along to less profitable spots. I'd have to go out my way to pass by one of them.